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Looks like your trolling, Toyota-bashing ways are going over big, as per usual! LOL! DrFill |
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1st Ting: Anyone who buys a Hummer, than complains about the economy should be shunned. And my #2: No car, ESPECIALLY a hybrid, gets the EPA numbers, unless Grandma is the one driving it. EVERY MAN, WOMAN, AND CHILD in America knows any numbers you see on the sticker are 15-25% higher than what you WILL get on a daily basis. EPA has no clue how to test a Prius for economy, or any other way. C&D got 50MPG on a test loop, so I'm duly impressed! Rock on!! DrFill |
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As long as we are comparing vehicles to the Prius, I think the Malibu Maxx is a much better comparison than a Hummer. The Maxx has more room than the Prius. It is a large hatchback and gets 30 mpg on the highway. Edmund's consumer rating has it equal with the Prius at 9.3 for the leather version with DVD, sunroof. The price is about the same or less. There is no artificial shortage to boost the prices. I think it is a good choice for a family looking for a nice hatchback.
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 13, 2005 10:25 am) If you want to lose a huge % of the value of the automobile the second it is driven off the lot, the Chevrolet Malibu MAXX is a good choice. TCO’s Prius II $25,676 purchase: $0.42/mile Malibu Maxx LS $23,824 purchase: $0.45/mile KBB TIV 2004 w/ 15,000 miles Prius II: $17,235 Malibu Maxx LS: $10,715 If you want to speak in terms of real costs, the Malibu Maxx is a very poor choice. If you want to speak about size and amenities, you can pick up a new Ford Crown Vic or 500 for ~ $20K. Good Luck Wayne R. Gerdes
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Let's not have a re-hash of beat each other up. Make your statement, agree to disagree and move on. Thanks. |
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Replying to: xcel (Mar 13, 2005 10:59 am) It seems that one of the selling points of the Prius is the hatchback. That was more of the basis for comparison. Also my recent experience renting a Malibu was good. I drove it for 8 days and averaged 27.2 MPG mostly around town. It was much roomier feeling than the Accord or Camry that I sat in. I was also comparing the Maxx LT with all the doodads. I never buy stripped models as they are much harder to sell when that time comes.
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 13, 2005 11:59 am) |
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Try getting a 2004 $25k Prius for $17k Those things are like Mini Coopers! You are paying over $20k, no doubt! Sales have skyrocketed this year for Prius! I guess the supply boats are in. DrFill
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Replying to: drfill (Mar 13, 2005 4:35 pm) The KBB prices quoted above are TIV’s. You will more then likely receive less if you were trading in an 04 Prius II or Malibu Maxx w/ $15K on the clock. PP and Retail are altogether different but the delta’s are still there. If you want to bring the Accord into the discussion, it trumps everything in this discussion in terms of holding value … Good Luck Wayne R. Gerdes |
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 12, 2005 10:12 pm) Actually, CR is one of the better indicators of vehicle problems and relaibility. If you don't like it what do you gauge your opinion or thoughts on? JD Powers does pretty good on intitial quality. NHSTA does pretty good on out-and-out failure recalls. There is no perfect source; that is the reason for a valid statistical sample , with distibution and stnadard deviation, etc. Look at any polling or predicition theory. It not as simple as perfect hindsight, because we can't say that a traction battery will last 8.123 years with a standard deviation of 1.32 years yet. In ten years you will be able to go back and make as exact of statement as you want. For example who could have predicted that the USA civil war was going to last from 4:30 am April 12, 1861 through April 9, 1865 (hh:mm ?) Cheers, MidCow - you have to understand statistics to be able to predict the future. Anyone, can predict the past.
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