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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 12, 2005 10:04 pm) First Gary Says "I think if you were objective in your research..." - Of course implying that other people aren't objective. Then he says "My source is the REAL people on Edmunds" when citing a cherry-picked example. So, the 250 Thousand people who replied to the CR survey aren't real people, nor are they objective. But, a couple of people on Edmunds are real and objective. Wait, no, that's not right. When people on Edmunds say they like the Prius, they are suddenly a self-selecting un-representative sample according to Gary. The only explanation for this apparent contradiction is that Gary's definition of 'objective' is completely subjective. Reminds me of that Fast Food slogan "Have it Your Way", except in Gary's case it's modified to "Have it Both Ways". |
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 12, 2005 10:04 pm) "... just as reliable as my '03 Denali." So, how reliable is that Denali, anyway? That "illegitimate" CR reliability survey shows GMC vehicles with a terrible reliability record. So "as reliable as my Denali" may be what is called "faint praise." BTW, there were 250,000 responses overall to the satisfaction question, not 250,000 Prius owners. I am glad kacyk likes his H2. I guess someone who can afford cars like the BMW 740 and MB 560 wouldn't blink an eye while satisfying the H2's appetite for gas. |
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Looks like your trolling, Toyota-bashing ways are going over big, as per usual! LOL! DrFill |
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1st Ting: Anyone who buys a Hummer, than complains about the economy should be shunned. And my #2: No car, ESPECIALLY a hybrid, gets the EPA numbers, unless Grandma is the one driving it. EVERY MAN, WOMAN, AND CHILD in America knows any numbers you see on the sticker are 15-25% higher than what you WILL get on a daily basis. EPA has no clue how to test a Prius for economy, or any other way. C&D got 50MPG on a test loop, so I'm duly impressed! Rock on!! DrFill |
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As long as we are comparing vehicles to the Prius, I think the Malibu Maxx is a much better comparison than a Hummer. The Maxx has more room than the Prius. It is a large hatchback and gets 30 mpg on the highway. Edmund's consumer rating has it equal with the Prius at 9.3 for the leather version with DVD, sunroof. The price is about the same or less. There is no artificial shortage to boost the prices. I think it is a good choice for a family looking for a nice hatchback.
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 13, 2005 10:25 am) If you want to lose a huge % of the value of the automobile the second it is driven off the lot, the Chevrolet Malibu MAXX is a good choice. TCO’s Prius II $25,676 purchase: $0.42/mile Malibu Maxx LS $23,824 purchase: $0.45/mile KBB TIV 2004 w/ 15,000 miles Prius II: $17,235 Malibu Maxx LS: $10,715 If you want to speak in terms of real costs, the Malibu Maxx is a very poor choice. If you want to speak about size and amenities, you can pick up a new Ford Crown Vic or 500 for ~ $20K. Good Luck Wayne R. Gerdes
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Let's not have a re-hash of beat each other up. Make your statement, agree to disagree and move on. Thanks. |
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Replying to: xcel (Mar 13, 2005 10:59 am) It seems that one of the selling points of the Prius is the hatchback. That was more of the basis for comparison. Also my recent experience renting a Malibu was good. I drove it for 8 days and averaged 27.2 MPG mostly around town. It was much roomier feeling than the Accord or Camry that I sat in. I was also comparing the Maxx LT with all the doodads. I never buy stripped models as they are much harder to sell when that time comes.
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 13, 2005 11:59 am) |
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Try getting a 2004 $25k Prius for $17k Those things are like Mini Coopers! You are paying over $20k, no doubt! Sales have skyrocketed this year for Prius! I guess the supply boats are in. DrFill
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