Sign In Join 



Toyota Prius v. ??? (fill in the comparison) - READ ONLY

393 messages,  Last post on Mar 28, 2005 at 7:51 AM

You are in the Hybrid Vehicles - Archived Discussions Forum. Your Host is pf_flyer

This discussion is ARCHIVED. To reactivate the discussion, post a request in the Lost? Ask the Hybrids Host for directions! discussion.

What is this discussion about? Toyota Prius, Hybrid Cars, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Sedan


Messages Page 35 of 40
1
...
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
...
40
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

#341 of 393
Re: Thick Headed [rfruth] by gagrice
Aug 23, 2004 (5:04 pm)

Replying to: rfruth (Aug 23, 2004 2:13 pm)

The one article I read was offering tax incentives to contractors that would equip homes with solar panels to alleviate the energy shortage. I don't think anyone is serious about solar for vehicle power at least in the near future.
#343 of 393
C & D Comparisons by falconone
Aug 24, 2004 (4:00 am)
I just got a chance to read the article people have been mentioning. Quite interesting how they threw an Echo into the mix. I don't think they were too thrilled with it either! They also were somewhat biased against the VW TDI. I'd have to agree with them on the Prius. I came away quite impressed with my extended test drive (a bit over 50 miles). I haven't driven the HCH so I can't make any comments. I have driven an Echo and let's just say there is NO comparison. The Prius is quite Lexus like in its execution. The Echo is so crude it shouldn't even be compared. If supplies ease in the next year or so, I will definitely consider a hybrid. Now I finally realize what all the hype is about. Its well deserved. Kudos Toyota!!
#344 of 393
Re: Toyota Prius v. ??? (fill in the comparison) [Sylvia] by electrictroy
Mar 10, 2005 (11:53 am)

Replying to: Sylvia (Jun 26, 2004 8:53 am)

Toyota Prius v. Civic Hybrid
 
I prefer the Civic. I like the stick shift better. It feels like you're really accelerating (even the CVT feels faster). I like that the Civic operates like a normal car in all aspects, except one extra meter (Battery).
 
.
Prius has too many "quirks" for my comfort. Can't use 10W-30 or warning lights will come on. Can't jumpstart it, because the 12V battery is hidden in the trunk. When driving, you feel disconnected from the road. Even the gear shift is strange (no park).
 
troy
#345 of 393
Re: Toyota Prius v. ??? (fill in the comparison) [electrictroy] by tempusvn
Mar 10, 2005 (1:27 pm)

Replying to: electrictroy (Mar 10, 2005 11:53 am)

"Prius has too many "quirks" for my comfort. Can't jumpstart it, because the 12V battery is hidden in the trunk"
 
Untrue
 
The Prius has jump points under the hood next to the engine like every other car.
#346 of 393
Re: Toyota Prius v. ??? (fill in the comparison) [electrictroy] by backy
Mar 10, 2005 (1:54 pm)

Replying to: electrictroy (Mar 10, 2005 11:53 am)

The Prius is actually quicker 0-60 than the Civic Hybrid, both 5-speed and CVT versions, according to Motor Trend (5/04):
 
HCH 5-speed: 11.9 secs. (charge?)
HCH CVT: 12.1 secs. (full charge)
Prius: 10.2 secs. (full charge)
 
Perhaps the Civic "feels" quicker because its smaller engine revs higher, imparting the impression of acceleration. Also the relative smoothness of the Prius vs. the HCH may mask the fact that the Prius is actually quicker.
 
Actually, I think it's pretty cool that the Prius warns you if you put the wrong weight oil in--might keep some owners from engine damage due to negligence by themselves or a lube tech.
#347 of 393
HOW MANY TIMES I'VE HEARD HUMMERS DON'T CARE ABOUT GAS PRICES by railroadjames
Mar 10, 2005 (8:37 pm)
How many times have we heard someone say.."IF YOU CAN AFFORD A HUMMER ..YOU CAN AFFORD THE GAS WHAT EVER THE COST?" Well I just visited a HUMMER OWNERS WEB SITE and what do you think they talk back & forth about? "What can I install to get my HUMMER better MPG's? WILL K & N airfilters help me improve my 9 MPG's? What after market accessories are available to boost my fuel economy? These and many more that, simply put, give you a bit of insight as to Hummer owners realizing why "GM" fails to post EPA mileage stats on the window of these behemoths. Same goes for FORD EXCURSION & CADILLAC ESCALADE.
Culliganman(Hybrid Future Is Safe & Sound)
#348 of 393
Re: HOW MANY TIMES I'VE HEARD HUMMERS DON'T CARE ABOUT GAS PRICES [railroadjames] by xcel
Mar 10, 2005 (9:51 pm)

Replying to: railroadjames (Mar 10, 2005 8:37 pm)

Hi Railroadjames:
 
      I have seen similar postings in the Honda Performance sites over the past 3 or 4 weeks as well and those machines already receive decent FE. Times are indeed a changin …
 
      Good Luck
 
      Wayne R. Gerdes
#349 of 393
Re: HOW MANY TIMES I'VE HEARD HUMMERS DON'T CARE ABOUT GAS PRICES [railroadjames] by gagrice
Mar 10, 2005 (10:11 pm)

Replying to: railroadjames (Mar 10, 2005 8:37 pm)

Here are 4 people that are complaining about the new Odyssey EX with VCM not getting good mileage. In fact one gets less than my Suburban.
 
cabaiste, "Honda Odyssey Owners: Problems & Solutions" #4238, 4 Mar 2005 4:16 pm
 
dulnev, "Honda Odyssey Owners: Problems & Solutions" #4217, 2 Mar 2005 10:45 pm
 
tcapers, "Honda Odyssey Owners: Problems & Solutions" #4210, 2 Mar 2005 10:28 am
 
stickguy, "Honda Odyssey Owners: Problems & Solutions" #4213, 2 Mar 2005 11:11 am
 
PS
I looked at a Hummer2 while I was stuck in Anchorage the last two days. They had a dealer markup of $4999 over MSRP, $66k. Stopped at the VW dealer to check on VW TDIs. They charge $1000 over MSRP and sell everyone they get. Get this Unleaded is $1.759 that's 50 cents less than San Diego.
#350 of 393
[gagrice]WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT? by railroadjames
Mar 11, 2005 (6:54 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 10, 2005 10:11 pm)

My info above earlier was just an observation that would surprise anyone that has heard so many "naysayers" shrugging off the Gas Guzzlers and their owners with the quick notion that they make so much $$$$$ that they don't care what the heck gas costs. Their forum sure speaks volumes to the contrary. Of course they bought those monsters unknowing the sad sad fact that 9-10 MPG's is the real world of the Dinosaurs they drive. P.T. Barnum said it all about suckers being born.
Why you brought up the (nothing to do with hybrids) business about the Odyssey is confussing and way out in left field. Any box vehicle pushing air like a van or RV or Hummer, etc is not going to compare to the hybrids. 'NUFF SAID
As to fuel cheaper in Alaska, I'd have to say.. good for them. Maybe they get a break up there. We sure don't.....Gas is $2.09 here in N.W. Indiana.
Culliganman(Free us Prius)

Messages Page 35 of 40
1
...
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
...
40
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

New? Join Now!

Forum Tools

Please sign in.
Email Address:

Password:

Forgot Password?

Search Forums

Enter Keyword(s)

Advanced Search

Browse by Vehicle



View All Vehicles
Advertisement
Ask the Community
See What People Are Asking

Browse by Board

Browse by Topic


View All Topics

Today's Chats

Advertisement