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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 26, 2004 6:24 am) If you are trying to make the point that some cars cost a lot less than the Prius, that is pretty obvious. If someone is really worried about lowest cash outlay, they can buy something like a slightly used Elantra for $7-10k. With the average price of new cars these days over $27,000 (more than what a loaded Prius costs), it's clear that lowest possible cash outlay is not the main criterion for many car buyers. Another way to look at it is total cost of ownership. It's interesting I think that Edmunds.com estimates the TCO for the Prius ($.38 per mile) is actually less than that of an Elantra GT ($.39 per mile). Purchase price is just one factor in "economy." |
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The Elantra I owned barely got 28 average on highway and city driving. I tried very hard to find one with ABS. No can do. People who buy this class are NOT interested in safety features (at least the majority). Stability control? LOL.... Don't even think about it. With all these reports about the Prius performing exceptionally well in crash tests, I am very happy I made the decision to buy mine. Dollars to me do not matter at all. It's a Prius thing. You wouldn't understand. I feel I paid quite fairly (below list I might add) for my '04 Prius. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Someone mentioned this class being miniature. LOL.. The Mini is miniature. The Prius is considered mid size. SUVs are super sized and pure excess and WASTE.
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Replying to: djasonw (Jun 26, 2004 9:49 am) Calling a Prius a midsize is like calling a Camry or Accord fullsize. It's a lie. A Crown Victoria is full size. The Mini-Cooper is very small. I would buy a Mini-Cooper over a Prius in a heartbeat. That car will not lose money over the long haul, if it is cared for. If you consider driving comfort and pleasure a WASTE. Then my Suburban and LS 400 are a WASTE. If you would take your family in a little car like the Prius on a long trip. That is horrible. The only reason I can see for them is daily commutes for 2 or less and going to the gracery store. I have an old Mazda 626 that I use for little errands. And it is more of a car than that Prius and I have driven both. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 26, 2004 11:29 am)
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Replying to: djasonw (Jun 26, 2004 11:57 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 26, 2004 11:29 am) Actually, in Europe and the rest of the world the Prius is classed as a Large Family Car, and it fits their needs, family and all, quite well for trips of all lengths. Only in America, home of the super-size Fries, Butts and Egos do we think for some odd reason that we need more interior space than the Prius (and similar US Mid-Size Cars) provide. Kind of odd. But, as far as transporting more than two people in comfort, let's see. Rear Leg Room Crown Vic 39.6 Prius 38.6 Camry 37.8 Accord 36.8 Mazda 6 36.5 For a Cross Country Trip with 4 people, explain to me again how the rear seat passengers are going to be more comfortable in the "Mid Size" Cam/Cord/6? Luggage Capacity Crown Vic 20.6 Camry 16.7 Prius 16.1 Mazda 6 15.2 Accord 14 Oooh, those Mid Size Accord buyers are all set to load up those suitcases. Bottom line is, the Prius is Mid-Size inside and Compact Size outside. It's fully and directly comparable to the Cam/Cords in interior size and function, and it's a lot more fun to drive  Something you should understand since you stress how valuable pleasure is in justifying your Suburban, though I have never really heard anyone justify needing a Suburban because it is fun to drive.
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Hi gang, I took my '04 Prius (#9/Drift) to Cental Oregon from the San Francisco Bay Area last month which is 510 miles each way. I took a leisurely 9 hrs or so to get there so I spent a long time "in the saddle". I stopped occasionally for safety stretching and only one stop for gas. No one should be making marathon driving stretches without breaks. It's good for the body AND the mind. Anyway, I found no discomfort when I got to my destination. I travelled solo with my ever-present golf clubs and even with other golf buddies/gear the ride is very smooth. Until you've taken on such a journey either solo or with passengers, don't keep saying the car isn't comfortable, it is!! Thanks, Rich
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Replying to: tempusvn (Jun 26, 2004 12:12 pm) Welcome to the debate. I think a long trip in Europe would be a bit shorter than a trip from San Diego to the Oregon border. My wife has spent a lot of time in Europe and agrees. The cars in general are smaller and you never see a PU truck like here. That is part of the problem. When you are in a sea of SUV's and 1 ton crew cab PU trucks with anything smaller it can be cause for claustrophobia. In the Suburban I can spot trouble 30 cars ahead in our Mazda barely one car ahead. The freeways and Interstate highways are a jungle and I don't want to be the mouse that gets squashed by the elephant. If I was in Europe I am sure I could handle being in a smaller car. |
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