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#1 of 393 Toyota Prius v. ??? (fill in the comparison) by Sylvia

Jun 26, 2004 (9:53 am)

The Prius is being compared to non-hybrid vehicles - the Elantra, Corolla and more. Here's the place to discussion the Prius V. other vehicles.

#2 of 393 Re: Diesel Fuel [ruking1 #3321] by backy

Jun 23, 2004 (8:32 am)

The Prius you get for $26k (double $12-14k) is far beyond "basic transportation" IMO. If you want basic transportation, you can go spend $10k on a Rio, Accent, Aveo etc.
 
Also you won't find a new Corolla for $12k. You might find a basic one for $14k, but for that you won't get ABS/traction, power everything, remote locking, auto climate control, automatic transmission or many of the other nice standard features of the Prius. But if a strippo Corolla meets your needs, save the bucks and buy one.

#3 of 393 Re: Diesel Fuel [backy #3322] by ruking1

Jun 23, 2004 (9:02 am)

Replying to: backy (Jun 23, 2004 8:32 am)
I can accept that folks buy a Prius for "other reasons", i.e., first amendment rights, status, image, so called environmental reasons, techno geek is cool! syndrome, etc etc! I think if you do not consider that the hybrid is specifically designed for "basic" transportation, i.e. COMMUTING, then you are bypassing the real reason for its utility and design!!??? If not, then you will have to accept that some folks positively have to commute in an suv, MB, BMW. I think you get the drift here.
 
Actually, I have taken your advice! That is why I bought a TDI diesel over a 2003 Prius! Too bad the Toyota Corolla doesn't come in the USA with a diesel! Killer combo! But then I can be forced to commute in my Toyota Landcruiser!

#4 of 393 Re: Diesel Fuel [ruking1 #3325] by gagrice

Jun 23, 2004 (9:09 am)

Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 23, 2004 9:02 am)
Has Toyota ever built a diesel engine? I know the Honda Accord Diesel that is now available in the EU is their first.

#5 of 393 Re: Diesel Fuel [backy #3322] by john1701a

Jun 23, 2004 (9:17 am)

Replying to: backy (Jun 23, 2004 8:32 am)
> Also you won't find a new Corolla for $12k
 
I saw one at the dealer today for $19,595.
 
It was the Corolla SRX without an automatic transmission.
 
JOHN

#6 of 393 Re: Diesel Fuel [ruking1 #3325] by highender

Jun 23, 2004 (9:24 am)

Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 23, 2004 9:02 am)
yeah for both the diesels and hybrids...
 
and the SUVs for whatever purpose you need or want.
 

#7 of 393 Re: Diesel Fuel [john1701a #3327] by midnightcowboy

Jun 23, 2004 (10:46 am)

Replying to: john1701a (Jun 23, 2004 9:17 am)
>> Also you won't find a new Corolla for $12k
 
>I saw one at the dealer today for $19,595.
 
>It was the Corolla SRX without an automatic transmission.
 
>JOHN
 
You can find new basic model 2004 and 2005 Corollas for around 12-13K, a few 2004 CEs are less than $12K
 
The Corolla SRX that you mention is incorrect. You actually meant a 2005 Corolla XRS which is the performance version with the 170 horsepower engine, the same as in the Matrix XRS and the Celica GTS. It is for driving enthusiasts and comes only in a 6-speed manual, the same as the Matrix XRS. However, in the Celica version you can get and automatic.
 
YMMV,
 
MidCow

#8 of 393 Re: Diesel Fuel [backy #3322] by midnightcowboy

Jun 23, 2004 (10:58 am)

Replying to: backy (Jun 23, 2004 8:32 am)
>Also you won't find a new Corolla for $12k.
>You might find a basic one for $14k
 
WRONG!
Everyday in the Houston Chronicle:
 
You can find new basic model 2004 and 2005 Corollas for around 12-13K, a few 2004 CEs are less than $12K
 
The basic model does not have ABS, but is does include:
 
DRL (daytime running Lights) - Prius doesn't have this!
32/40 mpg (manual transmission 0-60 mpg in 8.5 seconds)
external temperature display
tachometer -Prius doesn't have this
power mirrors
tilt-adjustable steering wheel
air conditioning
 
Cruise control, ABS brakes, sunroof and power remote locks are options.
 
The Corolla makes a very nice economy car with good acceleration and good miles per gallon at a price less than half the Prius.
 
YMMV,
 
MidCow

#9 of 393 Re: Diesel Fuel [midnightcowboy #3332] by john1701a

Jun 23, 2004 (11:12 am)

Replying to: midnightcowboy (Jun 23, 2004 10:46 am)
> You can find new basic model
 
You can order a basic model (which is rather well loaded) of Prius too.
 
So why are some people insisting that comparing the lowest cost Corolla to a every-tech-item-possible Prius is appropriate? They are opposite extremes.
 
JOHN

#10 of 393 Re: Diesel Fuel [john1701a #3327] by midnightcowboy

Jun 23, 2004 (11:17 am)

Replying to: john1701a (Jun 23, 2004 9:17 am)
>> Also you won't find a new Corolla for $12k
 
>I saw one at the dealer today for $19,595.
 
>It was the Corolla SRX without an automatic transmission.
 
>JOHN
 
You can find new basic model 2004 and 2005 Corollas for around 12-13K, a few 2004 CEs are less than $12K
 
The Corolla SRX that you mention is incorrect. You actually meant a 2005 Corolla XRS which is the performance version with the 170 horsepower engine, the same as in the Matrix XRS and the Celica GTS. It is for driving enthusiasts and comes only in a 6-speed manual, the same as the Matrix XRS. However, in the Celica version you can get and automatic.
 
YMMV,
 
MidCow

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