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#597 of 606 An Edmunds.com writer wants to know... by Sylvia

Jan 20, 2006 (9:00 pm)

Which of the following best describes why you own a hybrid?
 
a) to make a statement
 
b) for the tax credit and other perks
 
c) because they’re environmentally friendly
 
d) to save money at the pump
 
e) to be the first to own new technology
 
Please submit a few sentences to support your response no later than Wednesday, January 25, 2006. Be sure to include your Forums username. Thanks! (wclarkeedmunds.com)

#598 of 606 Re: An Edmunds.com writer wants to know... [Sylvia] by hot_georgia

Mar 19, 2006 (12:56 pm)

Replying to: Sylvia (Jan 20, 2006 9:00 pm)
d) to save money at the pump
and
e) to be the first to own new technology

#599 of 606 Re: ??? apples my man [moparbad] by pdxdriver

May 29, 2006 (3:19 am)

Replying to: moparbad (Nov 03, 2005 9:09 pm)
The Prius is NOT an economy car at $25,000 - 30,000. The compact luxury car market is largely ignored by manufacturers.

#600 of 606 response from another forum. by larsb

Oct 16, 2006 (12:40 pm)

gary says "You or no other anti diesel poster have come up with any test results of a modern diesel engine burning ULSD that was any dirtier than the other vehicles in the same class burning gasoline. That includes the new Blutec that passed the 2009 emissions. CARB just does not trust the owner to maintain the vehicle at those levels."
 
Firstly, I am not an "anti-diesel" poster. I am an "anti-DIRTY-diesel" poster. Big difference.
  
Gary says: "To get closer to home. I don't recall you saying you would not buy a 2004 Honda Civic Hybrid that was only rated a "TWO" in the non CARB states. There were many cars with better emissions."
 
I had no choice in the pollution score of the hybrid I bought. I did not know a lick about hybrid or EPA pollution scores until AFTER I bought my first hybrid. I live in a non-CARB state, so I could not choose the cleanliness of my car based on that criteria anyway, had I known to do so.
 
gary says-"In fact the Avalanche you traded in was a "3" on the EPA site. So you were only interested in getting better mileage. It had nothing to do with emissions. Yet you poo poo anyone that would buy a diesel to get better mileage because it is not up to the highest possible PZEV standard. If that is not hypocrisy what might it be?
 
I needed an Avalanche because I had a seven-member family. And that was WAY before I knew anything about EPA pollution scores.
 
As far as diesel getting good MPG - that's only a PART of the requirement in my mind. High MPG plus clean emissions is the combo I look for. Right now the diesel cars only do one half of the equation.
 
gary says-"I wonder how you sleep at night knowing that your car is part of Toyota's scheme to sell more gas guzzling high polluting vehicles."
 
Toyota has a "plan to sell more gas guzzling high pollution vehicles?" I'd like to see that press release - could you provide a link please?

#601 of 606 Re: response from another forum. [larsb] by gagrice

Oct 16, 2006 (1:23 pm)

Replying to: larsb (Oct 16, 2006 12:40 pm)
Toyota has a "plan to sell more gas guzzling high pollution vehicles?" I'd like to see that press release - could you provide a link please?
 
How is this? Do you think Toyota will spend $100,000,000 in advertising to triple the sales of hybrids this year? Only in your dreams.
 
Toyota, meanwhile, is about to launch its third attempt to crack the Chevy-Ford-Dodge stranglehold on the large pickup market. The Tundra matches the Detroit half-ton trucks in size and most measures of power. Toyota is confident enough in the Tundra that it has tooled up enough production capacity within the U.S. -- including the new Texas plant -- to churn out more than 300,000 Tundras a year, triple the current sales level for the truck.
 
Toyota officials said the Tundra marketing campaign, with a budget of more than $100 million, will be the biggest and most comprehensive in its 50-plus year history in the U.S. Jim Farley, the Toyota executive leading the effort, believes grass-roots efforts are the way to boost Toyota's credibility
 
Toyota to sell more gas guzzlers

#602 of 606 Re: response from another forum. [gagrice] by larsb

Oct 16, 2006 (2:17 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Oct 16, 2006 1:23 pm)
Gary, are you missing the point entirely?
 
Here is the key:
 
"Toyota, meanwhile, is about to launch its third attempt to crack the Chevy-Ford-Dodge stranglehold on the large pickup market."
 
That's not about "intentionally selling polluting vehicles" it's about "beating the competition at what they do best."
 
Whether we like it or not, Toyota is in business to MAKE MONEY. As is Ford, Nissan, GM, DC, MB, Subaru, Hyundai, Kia, Mitsubishi, Suzuki, Volvo, et al.
 
Why would Toyota not want that market? If the trucks are going to be sold ANYWAY, which they ARE, then why should Toyota be not allowed to go after it?
 
No company in the world has put more clean hybrids on the world's roads than Toyota.
 
You'll notice Toyota is also one of the hardest working comapnies at trying to "green up" their operations:
 
Green Watch

#603 of 606 Re: response from another forum. [larsb] by gagrice

Oct 16, 2006 (2:25 pm)

Replying to: larsb (Oct 16, 2006 2:17 pm)
The only thing green about Toyota is their bank accounts. They would have never gotten involved with hybrids if Japan had not pushed them in that direction. Japan was trying to save face over a flawed Kyoto Treaty.
 
You can believe they are doing something to make the air better. I don't believe they do anything that is not advantageous to Toyota and Japan.
 
If what you are saying is true they would tell the EU we have hybrids for certain classes of vehicles and that is your choice. They sell dirty diesels to the whole rest of the World including Mexico and Canada. So if they are so polluting (as you incorrectly say they are) we are getting it from both sides of US.

#604 of 606 Regardless of WHY the facts are there by larsb

Oct 16, 2006 (2:32 pm)

Who cares "why" they put hundreds of thousands of hybrids on the road? The point is that they DID, and no one else has done that much.
 
Ignoring that contribution seems kinda spiteful.

#605 of 606 Re: Regardless of WHY the facts are there [larsb] by gagrice

Oct 16, 2006 (3:53 pm)

Replying to: larsb (Oct 16, 2006 2:32 pm)
Kind of a par with the Columbian Drug lords that build schools and hospitals with their drug money.

#606 of 606 Going in circles by pf_flyer HOST

Oct 16, 2006 (4:41 pm)

Time to put this one to rest as you've apparently said all you have to say on reasons for buying a hybrid and are trying to turn this one into Hybrids versus Diesels as well.
 
If you want to debate diesels, try the new Is this the "Day of the Diesel" discussion.
 
Should you wish to discuss why you bought a particular hybrid vehcile, try one of the many vehicle groups we have here in the Hybrid Vehicles Message Board like the New Prius Owners - Give Us Your Report discussion, where new Prius owners can let us know what they love about their brand new ride!

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