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#230 of 3636 2006 Impala FWD/RWD
Apr 30, 2005 (3:25 pm)
Perosnally I don't care if the SS is FWD/RWD.... Your right about the video....and it doesn't really matter what you and I think....its what sells the product that really counts..if this gimmick works good for them!. if it doesn't they tried! ..Impala has done very well with this platform they currently have, even though over 40% are fleet sales....thats why we all take a beating when trade in time comes with low resale values....I am sure this 2006 Impala will do very well, it has a great heritage and is the most important vehicle to Chevrolet..... We all have wish lists and mine would be that for an extra $100 or so....nice exterior (Impala SS emblems) not just SS emblems.. on the 2006 SS car.....or 327 emblems with crossed flags....to indicate the small block V8 that has 50 years of heritage.......thats been the favorite of hotrodders from day one.(strut your stuff CHEVY) .....or the word SUPER SPORT inside the car like the SUPER SPORTS use to have.......not just SS on the steering wheel.......too plain!... offer an option of nice type aggressive American Racing wheels etc. when the car is purchased in lieu of those chunky wheels that it will come with.......Choices we need more choices!!..........I'll pay I'll pay!! ........the inside of the SS is not much different then the LTZ except for the SS on the steering wheel and the metal accents.....even the standard gauge package. is the same......at least the 2004-05 SS have more gauges.........come on GM push that envelope!! make these SS cars real SUPER SPORTS that they deserve to be! If you build them they will come!
#231 of 3636 GPS Navigation
May 22, 2005 (2:08 pm)
Has there been any word of an optional nav system for the 2006 Impala?
It seems to have about everything else you might want in this type pf car. The photo on the Chevy site shows a portable music player plugged into an AUX input and it has optional XM radio and even remote start as far as gadgets.
Built-in GPS navigation isn't only for luxury cars anymore. It is available on many non-luxury vehicles nowadays. Even a Dodge Caravan minivan has an optional nav system that's totally integrated into the stereo. The GPS navigation screen in the stereo of Dodge Caravans is very small compared to others so it doesn't have much data or map area on screen (simply text with street names, distance to next turn, plus arrows pointing the direction of the next turn etc. integrated into the existing radio station display screen), but it's stealthy so thieves casually scanning vehicle interiors for things to steal won't even notice that it isn't the base stock radio. This also eliminated the need to redesign the dash to accomodate a separate nav system display screen. Even the antenna is hidden so there is no external clue that there is a nav system installed. On the Impala, the GPS antenna could be integrated with XM or OnStar antennas.
#232 of 3636 2006 Police Impala
May 23, 2005 (11:52 am)
The latest word is that the 2006 9C1 police Impalas WILL NOT be offering the 5.3 V8. The 3.9, 240 hp V6 will be their Police engine package. One reason might be. The Impala 5.3 V8 requires Premium Fuel (91 Octane) while the 5.9 V8 Dodge Charger Police package runs on regular 87 Octane. Also I don't believe a 5.3 V8 Police Impala would have the oats to compete with the 5.9 V8 of the Hemi. Torque is what is most important when comparing acceleration #'s and 323 for the Impala compared to 390 for the Hemi is too much to compete with. I also believe FWD V8 would have more reliability problems then a RWD V8.. Current FWD Police Impalas have had a dismal reputation for transmission failures up to this point.
#233 of 3636 Re: Impala 3.9L - OHV ? [frasierdog]
May 24, 2005 (1:52 pm)
I think the new Impala is great looking, and really shows Lutz's touch. I just discovered this thread, so forgive me if I comment on some older posts:
It is my understanding that the new 3.9L engine will have VVT, but will be OHV and not OHC.
If so, this is a big disappointment. I am not interested in old OHV engines. I want a modern engine like the 3.6L VVT in the LaCrosse.
I am actually glad GM is not going to OHC across the board. OHV engines just aren't Grandad's engines (slugs) anymore; I suspect new materials (like lighter pushrods) and attention to valve springs have made them much more competitive to their OHC siblings. Originally OHC was a much better concept due to materials limitations and the need for high RPM (to extract more horsepower from smaller, less torquey engines), but that meant a whole generation of us have had to deal with timing belt changes, timing belt breakage with resulting bent valves (it happened to me with a Fiat 128), sheared oil with resulting cam shaft wear, sheared oil wit resulting viscoscity failure...
On the other hand, GM is finally giving their venerable OHV engines some real power to match the torque they've had, and now they have somehow given them variable valve timing, a neat trick. The 3.5 in the Malibu provides some serious power compared to the earlier 3.4 in the Malibu; yet GM retains some of the best gas mileage figures in their respective classes. I have to applaud that. And I don't begrudge GM saving a few bucks, and a few pounds, on their engines.
#234 of 3636 Certainly agree with you about OHV...
May 25, 2005 (8:15 am)
other than being a slight bit rougher, GM has done a great job of making their OHV's modern and light weight. My 3.5 liter Malibu Maxx gets within a couple of MPG's of my 2 liter Hyundai Elantra. Plus, there's no timing belt to worry about. The 60,000 service on my Hyundai ran me about $700. Although I'm not a big automatic transmission fan, my Maxx's 4 speed is well matched to the torqueness of the engine.
The Elantra 4 cylinder was a bit smoother, but all things considered, I like the GM OHV V-6's just fine.
The 06 Impala should be a huge improvement over the somewhat disjointed looking 05. It should compete well with the Ford/Mercury 500, Hyundai Azera and Toyota Avalon. Each of these cars is mightily improved from the predecessor car. I'd throw the Maxima into that mix, but it's a bit too plug ugly to say anything nice about.
#235 of 3636 Re: Certainly agree with you about OHV... [csandste]
May 25, 2005 (10:22 am)
I had been hoping that the 2004 would have an improved interior. I was close to buying an Impala in 2003, but hated the cheesy velour seats (definitely Grandad's seats!). Supposedly the fabrics were improved in 2004, but I couldn't see the difference in 2004 or 2005. I thought the exterior styling was ok - idiosyncratic but ok.
Now if they get the interior right for 2006, the Impala will be on my short list of cars for next year. I love the exterior - just wish they had retained the classic Impala taillights, I thought that was a neat nod to the past in the current generation.
Unfortunately, the Five Hundred from Ford also looks pretty good, and the pricing seems a lot better than the Impala - Chevy's delays in freshening the Impala have opened the door to some competition in a segment - large passenger cars - that has been moribund for years.
May 26, 2005 (4:51 am)
I don't see how the 500 pricing can be better? 500's are pretty pricey from what I have seen, especially considering their only engine is a 200hp V6. Mileage is also not great and the CVT technology is questionable long term.
The 500 could have been a much better car, I hope the Fusion is a better car.
#237 of 3636 pricing
May 26, 2005 (1:42 pm)
The '06 impala hasnt even been priced yet so I dont know how you can say the 500 is more reasonable. The 500's top price is around $29K but other than AWD and leather you arent getting a whole lot. The 500 only has 200hp and it doesnt offer an uplevel sound system while the impala has Bose and 303hp. In addition the Impala looks better inside and out.
#238 of 3636 2006 Impala pricing
May 26, 2005 (2:34 pm)
I would think the Impala trim lines (LS LT LTZ SS) prices will fall in line with Chryslers 2006 Chargers........Chrysler announced their prices last month.....The base Charger SE starts at $22995. that would be like the Impala LS.......the Hemi R/T comparable to the Impala SS (kinda of) starts at $29,995......the Charger Daytona R/T 350 hp starts at $32,495..........
#239 of 3636 The reason I found the Five Hundred pricing appealing...
May 26, 2005 (3:43 pm)
is that the SE edition comes with a nice interior, lists for 22-23, but sells in the San Francisco area for about 19.5. The transmissions are either CVT or 6 speed, both of which do well with the 3.0 DOHC engine. Speed control is included, as well as PW, PDL, PM.
The 2005 Impala is closer to 26 with the LS package, and the regular edition is not appealing to me - GM is still using the older, weaker 3.4 engine in the base model, not the upgraded 3.5 (from the Malibu) or the much upgraded, variable valve timing 3.5 promised for the 2006. Also, the base model Impala I drove in 2003 wallowed on the freeway; the LS model with its upgraded suspension was fine. So right now, the Five Hundred is a better buy, to me, than the base model 2005 Impala.
That will very likely shift when the base model Impala is discontinued for 2006 (they start as LS) and when all Impalas get a much upgraded suspension (the LS, LT, and LTZ all have the same suspension, though not the same tires and wheels). Also, the 2006 Impala will not only get the 3.5 from the Malibu, the 3.5 will be improved with variable valve timing.
To my mind, what was a clear nod to Chevy for the upgraded 2006 Impala (which I thought would be out by now) has been clouded by the Five Hundred. (I am not counting the Camry and Accord because both the Five Hundred and the Impala are a notch up in size; and the Avalon is too expensive.) In Chevy's favor, the Impala has had over five years to get the bugs out, and is now benefiting from a facelift, some suspension work, and great engine upgrades (yes, the 3.9 should blow the Five Hundred away). I'd like to see a five speed or 6 speed automatic, but reports are that the 4 speed in the Impala is very sturdy; and initial reports are that the 6 speed in the Five Hundred "hunts", and the CVT reliability is a big question mark. But, the Five Hundred is certainly appealing if I can get one with side air bags for under 20k; supposedly the body (designed by Volvo) is very strong, a big plus for crashes, while Chevy, as of 2005, only offers a driver side side curtain bag (nothing for the front or rear seat passengers).
I'll definitely drive both, and probably buy one of them in late 2006 as a 2007 model....but that's a moving target depending on pricing and incentives. While the midprice for vehicles in America is mid-20's, I still get nosebleeds from anything north of 17k.