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#1502 of 3636 Re: 2006 Impala [charts2]
Apr 26, 2006 (3:08 pm)
I agree. I don't know what the secret is with the Camry -it doesn't have massive changes each year and seems to be the top seller in the mid size category. Unfortunately for the Impala, the 2007 Camry interior makes it look like a Chevy work truck. There is no comparison at all - the Camry looks like the Avalon inside. I would think that if Impala expects to compete with the Avalon, base Lexus, 500, etc, it needs to look like a luxury car inside. Of course GM doesn't know how to design a luxury car -the inside of my 2003 Deville is pretty plain, especially the door panels.
#1503 of 3636 Re: 2006 Impala [dispencer1]
Apr 26, 2006 (3:22 pm)
As a follow up, it appears that GM, especially Pontiac and Chevy, are pushing engines, horsepower, V8s, etc. Camry doesn't. It provides engines that do the job and have adequate horsepower and torque, but advertises the amenities on the cars and it is obvious that reliability plays a large part in its sales success. Perhaps the majority of buyers aren't interested in NASCAR racing on Main Street. It seems like the only people who are interested in this sort of thing are car writers and reviewers. Frankly I don't like "performance suspensions". I dumped an '06 Solara SLE convertible after a month of a stiff ride. I like my Impala just fine but I didn't buy it because of the engine.
#1504 of 3636 Re: Help out the tall folks! [quietpro]
Apr 26, 2006 (3:39 pm)
I haven't purchased a new car (van yes) for a very long time. So I began with the running assumption that foreign cars were for smaller people. So I only by chance checked out the Altima and was very surprised. Even the Accord has great leg room since the 03 model. Camry is too small however and Avalon has the center post in my knee.
But I was surprised to find the foreign market had encroached upon this market niche. So GM should take note!
I've been in two car wrecks and both times my knee went into the dash. So I'm very mindful of it this car purchase. I want that dash out of my lap.
By the way, I also appreciate the telescoping wheels.
I'm looking at the other thread on tall people right now!
#1505 of 3636 Re: 3.9L vs. V8 & DOD [steve333]
Apr 26, 2006 (4:09 pm)
Where did you get the numbesr on leg room?
#1506 of 3636 Re: 2006 Impala [dispencer1]
Apr 27, 2006 (5:39 am)
I don't know what you are looking for in interior looks, comfort, but my moms previous 1982 Riviera was all luxury to me. It is hard to believe that the interiors have been downgraded since then.
#1507 of 3636 2006 Impala/ future /dispencer1
Apr 27, 2006 (5:55 am)
I believe there are many factors why the Camry/Accord have done so well for so many years. For those on this forum that are old enough to remember starting in the early 70s the big three started making cars on the cheap and ran into a large number of mechanical issues that plagued many models for many years. Rust, engine/transmission failures, head gaskets, paint peeling, etc. and dealership service departments that weren't interested in your complaints. Believe me I was there. The Japanese cars had started in the US with a few problems of their own but knew to compete they had to make their cars better. Toyota corolla and the Honda Civic started to become reliable and their dealerships were sympathetic to problems that you might have. The big three were making BILLIONS and not interested in anything but making money. Most americans at that time were not interested in anything but US made but as time went on, when people started buying Japanese cars and found them more reliable and fuel efficient, and higher resale value, they purchased again, and again. Soon it became like a religion where people found that if the US wasn't going to make reliable cars people were going elsewhere. Only in the past few years has the big three realized and started copying designs from their fast selling imports. Chevy started with the Celebrity Eurosport just to compete. Reliability of the big three has come a long way but the Japanese/Korean/ and soon to be Chinese cars are still ahead slightly in reliability and resale value and dealership friendlyness, which is very important. The current 2006 Impala is GMs top seller and little will change for 07/08. I believe the next 2 or three years GM will launch the largest new car change over in their history. There is a lot of excitement about the next Impala that will fianlly break away from "looking like most of its competition" and get back to ITS roots in design/performance and notched up reliability. According to GM the next Impala will be larger, MUCH bolder looking (similar to what Chrysler has done) and break away from the import look. Its a big gamble but GM doesn't have much choice. They can't continue to lose BILLIONS every year following the competition. GM has already started this year with capping production of some models to boost resale value of their cars. In 2007/8 the chinese will flood the US market with their Chery line of several models from small/midsize/fullsize cars and trucks that are suppose to rival any of the competition for quality/reliability at a very low price. Exciting times are coming, and I believe that GM will pull out all the stops starting with the new Camaro and Impala in 09.
Apr 28, 2006 (6:28 am)
I'm just wondering if GM is going to be late to the "retro" party. By the time that car launches, that fad me over. I'm not convinced that its really a long term trend. After the initial buzz, what's the staying power? I'm not sure how much sense it makes to mess radically with the formula that is producing the #1 sales car in the entire company.
Honda & Toyota have gone the evolutionary route, I think that's a smarter move. I think the '06 Impala is a very smart looking car, clearly "fresher" than the previous model. I can understand the switch to a rear drive platform, but count me skeptical of major new styling changes on Impala. I don't neccessarily feel that way about other GM models, however.
Sad thing is that Impala is literally the only GM car in my price range I'd buy right now. The LaCrosse is ridiculously non-competitive to me. The Grand Prix is a joke. Neither of them area all that cheap, either. Lucerne is a nice car, but again only the CXL is competitive and that is very expensive. I love the STS and SRX, but have never really been a huge fan of the CTS (looking forward to seeing the new one). I actually like the look of the Saab-based Cadillac BTS (Europe sale) better.
So, if I had to buy a car right now (it looks like I won't, at least until my warranty is up on the Intrigue), I'd have one option from GM. That leaves me looking at Camry and Accord. And for the same money, where do you think I'm going to go? To the Honda dealership, where for the price of an Impala LT3, I'm in an Accord V6 EX with more features, and I don't have to worry about it falling apart like my 'Trig is.
#1509 of 3636 2006+ Impala
Apr 28, 2006 (7:19 am)
The current Impala platform has been going strong since introduced in 1999 as a 2000 model. The 2006 is a nice freshening and little will change on the 07 08. Back in 2000 the Korean cars weren't even on the scope but now they have a car the Sonata that is drawing a lot of attention as an Impala competitor with strong warranty and fine appointments. Chinese cars will flood the US market in 2008 with their Chery brand and they will have a car that will go head to head with the Impala. GM knows that just following the competition hasn't worked for them. Losing Billions every year making look-alike cars of the competition doesn't work. Chrysler made bold moves and just the word HEMI has switched a lot of loyal GM customers to Mopar. A friend of mine just traded a 2004 Impala LS for a Chrysler 300. The interior and ride are light years apart on these cars and not much different in price. You can't just keeping making the same old today.....The bold new Camaro is the winner this year in GMs concepts and has drawn more attention then anything else. Throughout the 60s the Impala was the #1 car in America. If it worked then it can work again, just check Chryslers numbers and anticipation of the new Challenger coming on stream. I'm not saying the next Impala has to look like a 67 SS but hints of that era will get my heart racing. For GM to survive a different direction has to be taken. I applaud GM for doing that.
#1510 of 3636 Re: 2006+ Impala [charts2]
Apr 28, 2006 (8:06 am)
"Throughout the 60s the Impala was the #1 car in America. If it worked then it can work again"
The 60s also saw trade tarrifs to keep out foreign competition. I'm not so sure it will work in the same manner.
#1511 of 3636 2006 Impala/worr
Apr 28, 2006 (8:40 am)
The 60s had trade tarrifs is correct and competition was mainly between the big three. At that time the Impala outsold its competition. Today on a level playing field with no tarrifs with more competition then ever before the Japanese car companies are consistently the leaders and will be until the big three decide that following doesn't work. Example: The Malibu SS and Impala SS from the front are almost identical. That doesn't make sense and doesn't work anymore. A bold new direction must be taken. GM knows chances have to be taken to succeed today. GM doesn't have enough resources to lose billions continually following the leaders. Its time to take the lead and show the competition that they are the new standard. Within 2 years or so great new product changovers will start coming from GM. Exciting times are ahead!