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#150 of 3460 '06 Impala SS engine/tranny combo by jpstax1 Feb 01, 2005 (8:09 pm)
Replying to: 1487 (Feb 01, 2005 4:29 pm) A friend told me the '06 Impala SS will be FWD. In previous posts (in the Impala forum) I said there shouldn't be a problem using the same engine/tranny combo that the '05 Grand Prix GXP will be using. However, I now see that the GXP will be RWD. That same engine/tranny combo in the GXP could be a problem in the Impala SS because of its FWD (although Chevy's engineers apparently seem to know what they're doing). Some people in that forum say the 5300 engine would generate too much torque for the FWD tranny in the '06 Impala SS to handle. But who knows for sure? Replies to this message: hammen2 (Feb 02, 2005 2:27 am)
#151 of 3460 Re: '06 Impala SS engine/tranny combo [jpstax1] by hammen2 Feb 02, 2005 (2:27 am)
Replying to: jpstax1 (Feb 01, 2005 8:09 pm) The GXP is FWD, not RWD.   GM's been working for 4-5 years to get this V8 package ready for their FWD vehicles. I'd imagine they'll not overlook the tranny - despite an occasional blip, there's a reason why GM transmissions are known as the best in the business (except, of course, for the lag in the 6-speed auto development, but that's coming...)   --Robert
#152 of 3460 06 Impala SS v8/hammen2 by charts2 Feb 02, 2005 (4:34 am)
GM has been working for 4-5 years to get this v8 ready for FWD vehicles!....where did you get that information?!!!. What is your source? I believe they were testing this 18 months ago or so but not 5 years ago!...Motor Trend, Edmunds, Car and Driver and most other car sources up until several months ago still believed there was no v8 coming for the Impala...I believe this V8 was rushed in the past year because of the huge success of chryslers current v8 hemi ....even Chevys Gary Cowger said recently the 5300 was just recently designed to fit front wheel drive applications and Pontiac was the first to get it......no way was a v8 even on the radar 4 or 5 years ago for FWD.....they weren't even offering the super charged v6 for the Impala at that point and we are still going through that sequence.....We have to thank chrysler for their success for blazing the trail that shows that there is a market for V8s again in family sedans, and they have set the bar to the next level for performance! Hemi! they have done their homework!......At this point in time GM is a follower not a leader! Like it or not. I am sure there will be a market for this V8 Impala SS, but not for its great performance but for its loyal followers! and I am a loyal chevy fan right back to the 60's....... Replies to this message: jpstax1 (Feb 02, 2005 6:41 am) hammen2 (Feb 02, 2005 7:59 am)
#153 of 3460 Re: 06 Impala SS v8/hammen2 [charts2] by jpstax1 Feb 02, 2005 (6:41 am)
Replying to: charts2 (Feb 02, 2005 4:34 am) Hey charts2. Pardon me for the intrusion on your post to hammen2, but I think you should try to be a little less caustic in your remarks to people. I saw where you jumped all over me too in the other Impala forum, when you challenged me about where I got my info on the GXP. In case you haven't seen my reply yet, I read about the GXP being FWD at this site:   http://www.fast-autos.net/pontiac/pontiacgrandprixgxp.html   It's probably a mistake on their part. Scroll down under Photos to Specifications/General Information/Layout: It should have said FWD, not RWD.
#154 of 3460 Re: 06 Impala SS v8/hammen2 [charts2] by hammen2 Feb 02, 2005 (7:59 am)
Replying to: charts2 (Feb 02, 2005 4:34 am) GM has shown concept Monte's/Grand Prix cars with V8's for a couple of years now. I distinctly remember reading an interview with Kurt Ritter, former Chevy division head (before he jumped ship to Toyota in 2003?), where he indicated V-8s were "probably" coming. This is something Lutz also pushed for, and he re-joined GM in August/September of 2001, IIRC.   An engine program like the LS4 V-8 takes at least 3-4 years of development. Go look on the GM Powertrain website, and you'll see that one of the design criteria for this engine was FWD applications.   The V-8 in the Impala/Grand Prix/Monte is not a crash-and-burn due to the success of the Chrysler 300. Bear in mind that crash-and-burn times in the auto industry are upwards of two years (which is how long it took to federalize the Holden Monaro as the GTO - the upcoming Solstice will end up being about 2 1/2 years from concept to on-sale). Also remember that federal/EPA regulations change on a regular basis. The 3800 engine won't meet some upcoming changes (not sure if 2007 or 2009), so obviously it must be either upgraded or replaced. GM obviously decided to replace it, and thus the FWD V-8.   Hope this explains things,   --Robert (doesn't work for GM or any automaker - I'm just an IT geek with industry interest)
#155 of 3460 2006 impala ss/ jpstax1 by charts2 Feb 02, 2005 (8:16 am)
I jumped all over you on the other Impala forum?! what other Impala forum are you referring to regarding the Pontiac GXP?. FWD/RWD thats fine, they made a mistake, it was corrected....furthermore I think you should let mr, hammen2 address his own answer to this post I am sure he is more then capable. Caustic! because I asked where he got this information and what was his source? Replies to this message: jpstax1 (Feb 02, 2005 12:34 pm)
#156 of 3460 2006 ss/hammen2 by charts2 Feb 02, 2005 (9:06 am)
Robert: thanks for replying back. I know a few years back Chevy was testing v8 engines for the Monte Carlo/Impala.....The Fleet/police indicated in 2001/2002 that the police Impala was underpowered for certain applications...Chevy tried certain v8s in testing including (I believe the 4.3 V8?) and they also made a 5.7 V8 black Impala SS that they had on display at the Oshawa assembly plant back in 2002 in their front office lobby, I don't know if you remember that?. It drew a lot of attention and chevy canned the idea because it was extremely hard to fit the engine and other complications including cost....I don't remember back 4 or 5 years testing the small block 5.3 V8 that you had mentioned....I know that this was originally developed for their truck lines. The first that I heard of the 5.3 V8 for the Impala was about 18 months ago.....this original small block goes back to 1955 the first v8 that chevy developed that went into the Corvette and Belair models back in 55'. Replies to this message: jpstax1 (Feb 02, 2005 1:18 pm)
#157 of 3460 by kirstie_h HOST Feb 02, 2005 (9:43 am)
Relax... we're not going to start a civil war over info about a vehicle that's not yet available. Posting with a less challenging "tone" and extraneous punctuation is more likely to result in a reasoned response to questions. Thanks!
#159 of 3460 Re: 2006 impala ss/ jpstax1 [charts2] by jpstax1 Feb 02, 2005 (12:34 pm)
Replying to: charts2 (Feb 02, 2005 8:16 am) My apologies. I thought it was you that slammed me for the RWD instead of FWD reply to my post. It was actually a member named "batista" over in the Chevrolet Impala forum. I didn't appreciate the way he replied to me. Anyway, someone else was concerned that the FWD tranny in the Impala SS wouldn't last too long because of the huge torque generated by the 5300 engine. I merely pointed out that Pontiac is planning on using this same engine/tranny combo for their new GXP, and that the Chevrolet and Pontiac engineers apparently know what they're doing.

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