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Arizona recommendations? by kyfdx HOST
Mar 13, 2007 (3:20 am)
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Vacation in a few weeks.. We are looking to spend a couple of days in Sedona. Any recommendations on where to stay in Sedona? Any Jeep tour companies?
 
Two adults and a 13-yr-old. Medium budget.
 
We have the rest of the vacation pretty well planned out. Flying to Phoenix, Grand Canyon, etc..
 
Thanks a lot!!
kyfdx
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Re: OK, I'll try to get something going here... [corvette] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 13, 2007 (3:21 am)
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Replying to: corvette (Mar 12, 2007 5:45 pm)

The Tail of the Dragon? After you got rid of the BMW?
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Re: OK, I'll try to get something going here... [corvette] by guss
Mar 13, 2007 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: corvette (Mar 12, 2007 5:45 pm)

I love Skyline Drive. It has been a few years since I went that way, but if you can do it in the fall it is incredible. The limited access makes i for a very leisurely ride. You just have to get into the right mentality that it is ok to be driving 35 to 45 , when you could be making great time on the interstate doing 75.
 
The guy in your article is a wacadoo. Why spend that muck effort trying to save $25 a week. I agree about looking ahead and costing in certain situations. But, turning off the engine is crazy.
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Re: Did a little looking today.... [akangl] by growwise
Mar 13, 2007 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: akangl (Mar 12, 2007 9:18 am)

Do you have a turbo diesel engine in your truck? If so, then 20k is just breaking in. Most diesel trucks routinely go beyond 250k with regular maintenance.
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Re: OK, I'll try to get something going here... [kyfdx] by corvette
Mar 13, 2007 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 13, 2007 3:21 am)

It was still a lot of fun! The Audi is less communicative, and has less outright grip at the limits (the all-season tires are mostly to blame there), but I bet I had more fun than the person in the Grand Cherokee I got stuck behind at the end. I think I would go through a couple of sets of tires a year if I lived closer to the Dragon.
 
What is there to do in Sedona? Off-road trails?
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Re: Arizona recommendations? [kyfdx] by jbollt
Mar 13, 2007 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 13, 2007 3:20 am)

Just up the creek from Sedona is a very nice (and popluar)spot called Slide Rock. It is a nice spot to picnic or wade in the water. (Rare for AZ). The water may be very cold this time of year, but it is pretty to walk around and hike if you are into that kinda thing. It is located in a very pretty canyon, called Oak Creek Canyon. The drive N from Sedona thru this canyon is very beautiful. The canyon gets narrower and narrower as it goes north, with the road at the bottom, next to the creek.
 
Enjoy! Jeff
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Re: Did a little looking today.... [growwise] by akangl
Mar 13, 2007 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: growwise (Mar 13, 2007 6:00 am)

Do you have a turbo diesel engine in your truck? If so, then 20k is just breaking in. Most diesel trucks routinely go beyond 250k with regular maintenance.
 
Yup, its a 5.9L 6-cyl Cummins turbo diesel. Its kind of neat to drive, but sometimes I long for a gasser. Gas engines are no where near as fussy about maintenance as a diesel is. My truck gets cranky if I'm 1 mile late changing the fuel filter!
 
Right now its got a hard start problem, taking it to the dealer tomorrow, its been fussy ever since the injector was replaced in Washington back in January.
 
It'll pull anything I hook it to and doesn't do bad with fuel economy either. I get an average of 19 mpg empty and 12 mpg towing, not too shabby for a 7000 lb truck.
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Re: Arizona recommendations? [kyfdx] by grandtotal
Mar 13, 2007 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 13, 2007 3:20 am)

We were very pleased with these people Safari Jeep Tours. If you do the wildlife safari (which starts pre-dawn) make sure you dress warmly.
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Arizona recommendations? by michaell
Mar 13, 2007 (11:25 am)
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I agree with Jeff. I lived in Phoenix back in the 80's and when it got too hot in the valley during the summer months, I'd take a day trip up to Sedona and Flagstaff to escape the heat.
 
US 60 to Wickenburg, then north on 89 to Prescott. I think 89 splits at that point and you want to take 89A through Jerome (old, cool mining town built on the side of a mountain), then into Sedona.
 
From Sedona north, you climb a couple thousand feet in not too many miles, IIRC. Flagstaff is at 7000', so the temp will be quite a bit cooler there than it was in Phoenix.
 
Enjoy!
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7000' Re: Arizona recommendations? [michaell] by rayainsw
Mar 13, 2007 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: michaell (Mar 13, 2007 11:25 am)

“From Sedona north, you climb a couple thousand feet in not too many miles, IIRC. Flagstaff is at 7000', so the temp will be quite a bit cooler there than it was in Phoenix.”
 
One thing to keep in mind is that this time of year, related to that comment about elevation, is that it can be rather cold - even snow – both in Flagstaff & at the South Rim. My daughter & I did Zion & the Grand Canyon last April, and there was snow on the North Rim and the South Rim when we were there.
 
I had been to the Grand Canyon before - 30+ years ago, when I lived in Southern AZ (in the military) - so took few pics, except of my daughter.
And it is really hard to take a picture that captures even a portion of the grandeur (really) of that place.
  
Only thing that had really changed at the Canyon since I was there before is that they have introduced Condors. Huge! ( 7 - 9 foot wingspan)
  
We saw several, but never long enough to try for a great shot.
( Shooting birds in flight is a challenge anyway.)
Just as we were about to board the shuttle bus to an area where no cars are allowed & just as we were boarding my daughter said:
" LOOK CONDORS "
I turned and shot quickly - focused on infinity, I expect - not on the birds.
( sigh )
But people have posted on some photography sites that they have spent days at the park & not seen any at all. Or only at long distance.
  
Those 2 were ( briefly ) close to the main hotel \ lodge!
  
Anyway . .
Enjoy!
- Ray
Excellent trip.

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