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#33729 of 35322 Re: I Don't Want to Grow Up... [laurasdada]
Sep 13, 2013 (1:39 pm)
You may be sad to see the XK go, but what a fun opportunity to buy something nice and new!
Though I did trade my A5 earlier this year for the 335i, I did really like the Audi - more luxury than sport, which is why I switched, but all depends on what you're looking for.
I thought the 2.0T, paired with the 8-speed auto, provided ample power. The facelift for 2013 is sharp. Quire a bit of room in the rear seat (if needed), particularly for a coupe.
Don't know much about the Jags.
The XF and A5 are, IMO, more distinctive than the 3/4 series, IS and Q50, but those certainly are nice (and freshly designed). I really liked the interior of the new IS when I sat in it recently. 4 series would probably be a bit more unique than all the 3 series around. Personal preference, but I would go with the Lexus or BMW before the Infiniti. Can't get into a 6 series Gran Coupe in that price range, can you?
My $.02 for what it's worth.
#33730 of 35322 Re: I Don't Want to Grow Up... [laurasdada]
Sep 13, 2013 (3:02 pm)
The Buick LaCrosse has awd available but it is a domestic and probably not on yopur radar. I think the Fusion also has the option as well as the Dodge Charger and Chrysler 300.
#33731 of 35322 Re: I Don't Want to Grow Up... [nyccarguy]
Sep 13, 2013 (4:56 pm)
2012 total was 25.
2013 total so far is 20.
(The things I do for you folks when I'm on vacation...)
#33732 of 35322 Re: I Don't Want to Grow Up... [stickguy]
Sep 13, 2013 (5:56 pm)
I love that color combination.
Sep 14, 2013 (10:27 am)
Have driven a number of these at work and they did a great job. My neighbor just got rid of her last generation one for a 2013 but it has to be the base model as it has the cheaper looking hubcaps. Still, a nice job by Ford at a reasonable price for a nice driving mid size vehicle. Ford should move a ton of them over the next few years and think I'll be seeing a lot more in the hertz fleet soon.
#33734 of 35322 Re: I Don't Want to Grow Up... [breld]
Sep 14, 2013 (4:14 pm)
My Dad had the S60, nice piece of work. But, he traded it for a new Mazda 6, nice piece of work...
6 Gran Coupe, A7, CLS, a bit too pricey for me. In my travels today (no car shopping) a ~90 year old gentleman stopped me as I was exiting the Jag. We talked, very sharp man (however, hunched over with a hand-carved looking cane) and wanted to know all about the XK. He said it looked like it should have wings, loved all the wood, leather and chrome in the interior. His advice, don't sell it! That seems to be a common theme, except for those who want me to simplify my life (which is becoming more complex every day...) and get a 52 week car.
I was also approached by a young boy, ~8-ish I'll guess, who asked if I had a bicycle. Why, yes, yes I do. Could I fix his broken front brake? Why, yes, yes I did. A big smile and a thank you, Sir! as he rode away. Nicest moment of the day, maybe the month, year.... But, sir? I am old.
Thanks, I'm not sure Buick is yet on my radar. Not that I'm an import snob, two cars back I had a Chrysler 300M. Nice car.
As with the XK, I don't see XF and A5 every day (well, maybe an A5 a day...), which appeals to me. The analysis paralysis continues.
Sep 16, 2013 (7:33 am)
Passed 2,000 miles this weekend, including a drive into the north Georgia mountains – to spend a morning at Anna Ruby Falls. A few general comments:
This is an excellent long distance vehicle – drove approx. 1.5 hours up & the same return, without stops. This is about as far \ long as I typically drive these days without a stop to stretch my legs, etc. The seats remained supportive and comfortable. The drive dynamics at cruising speeds were calm and composed. The MPG are acceptable. Wind and road noise are typically quite subdued – the only exception being worn \ coarse pavement, where some tire noise becomes noticeable. Otherwise, it is an excellent spot to relax, sip good coffee, enjoy music and watch the world go bye. Maintaining legal-ish speeds and highway speed passing is effortless.
Off the highways, the handling works very well for me, the cornering in brisk driving is fun. And I find the braking bite excellent & progressive and the acceleration rewarding. Even in hilly terrain, the motor pulls fine.
1 happy driver …..
Sep 16, 2013 (8:43 am)
You're killing me, Ray. The more you gush about the GTI (and corvette about his GLI), the more it moves up the list when and if I get a new ride.
Am curious about your opinions regarding the DSG. My wife would prefer an "automatic" but I'm thinking a stick would be nice for a fun car.
I test drove the GTI with a stick but have sampled the DSG in a CC.
#33737 of 35322 DSG Re: GTI update [Michaell@Edmunds]
Sep 16, 2013 (10:32 am)
I have selected & almost always driven automatics with a manual function for almost 15 years now.
The BMW 335iS I had for 2 years & almost 30,000 miles also had a dual-clutch automated manual trans. - a 7-speed DCT. It was a blast to drive – most of the time. Certainly, in enthusiastic driving, it was excellent – snapping off crisp upshifts and rev-matched downshifts with both speed and smoothness. In the stop&slow slog I often encounter during my afternoon commute home, out of midtown Atlanta, it was not quite as impressive – sometimes not cushioning the on\off throttle transitions smoothly and often shifting with some harshness at low RPM. Still, I liked it, a lot.
Clearly, the 6-speed DSG in this VW is not quite in the same league, partly because it does not need to handle nearly the same amount of Torque – 207 here, vs. 370 in the BMW.
I find the VW’s device to be just as satisfying when driving in haste, and even better at slow speeds, compared to the BMW. The manual upshifts are very, very quick, yet typically the only indications apparent are the tachometer dip and the exhaust note change. Whether it is spark interruption, fuel cutoff, or a combination, the speed and smoothness I find remarkable & really enjoyable. The same goes for the downshifts. In fact, the only criticism I have is that when slowing with a closed throttle in first gear, the clutch disengages below about 5 - 10 mph, and that transition is not quite as smooth as I’d prefer.
It also selects up and down shift points in full automatic mode so close to what I would manually that I typically do not want \ need to utilize manual mode as often as I did in the BMW. Quite impressive.
I primarily drove manual transmission cars [ and owned them exclusively ] for many years. [ 30+ years. ] But I see no way that I would go back to a traditional, true manual, with a clutch. [ a 'manual' clutch? One with a third pedal you must press... ]
I can not imagine a better device for connecting an internal combustion engine to the drive wheels of a car.
My 2 cents worth.
DSG = OK for me . . .
#33738 of 35322 Re: GTI update [Michaell@Edmunds]
Sep 16, 2013 (10:45 am)
That makes 2 of us Michaell. I've recently become interested in the prospect of owning a Jetta TDI when the lease is up on my BMW in a year from next Monday (but who's counting?)