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#33025 of 35164 Little Saturday shopping...
Jul 14, 2013 (7:14 am)
Wife and I were without any kids yesterday, so we took the opportunity to buzz around town - "spalunking" as she puts it. A little antique shopping, looking at hot tubs, perusing the local bike store, burger at Culver's....and you can't really have a day like that without car shopping.
We stopped to take a look and a quick drive of the Fiat 500L. The only automatic they had was out on a test drive, so since we're perfectly capable, we took a 6-speed manual out. Nicely equipped with navigation (a package with that and back up sensors/cameras is included in most models for the first year of production apparently) with a sticker of $21k.
In the showroom, we were most impressed with the packaging - with a tall roofline, it feels spacious for a relatively small car. The two-tone seats added a bit of character.
I enjoyed the drive of the car - that engine (same as the Abarth's) is zippy enough to make the drive engaging and the ride was very smooth. As we compared it to the Countryman we drove a year ago or so, we both agreed the character of the cars is completely different. Perhaps not surprisingly, the Mini offers a sportier, but rougher ride, and its interior/dash quirks seems a bit much. The 500L is smoother and more relaxed, with a bit more traditional interior.
Next year when I look for that practical hatchback, I think the 500L will definitely make the list. For about the same money as a Mazda3 or Elantra GT, it offers an interesting alternative.
#33026 of 35164 Re: getting a Jonesing [ohenryx]
Jul 14, 2013 (9:28 am)
They were very good numbers but not in the "give it away" sense - at least not to me. Frankly, the numbers are still competitive but given that I'm not in a need-to-buy situation, it just isn't attractive enough for me to bite.
Instead, today, I'm living vicariously and taking my brother-in-law and sister-in-law car shopping. They need to add a second car to their fleet so we'll be driving the Jetta TDI Sportwagen, Subaru Outback, Ford Escape and Nissan Rogue.
#33027 of 35164 Re: Little Saturday shopping... [breld]
Jul 14, 2013 (10:30 am)
Funny, I've been looking into these a bit as well. The manual Easy-spec at $21k seems like a pretty good value, especially with the nav/6.5 uconnect thrown in on the first models. Might have to check one out, curious to compare to the Countryman I drove.
#33028 of 35164 Re: getting a Jonesing [28firefighter]
Jul 14, 2013 (10:41 am)
You must not live in Texas, if you're going car shopping on a Sunday. Here the blue laws force new car dealerships to be closed on either Saturday or Sunday, they can't be open both days. Naturally, most dealerships choose to close on Sundays. There are a few open, but Sunday is a very poor day for car shopping.
Now it is a good day to wonder around the lot, looking at window stickers without being harassed by predatory salesmen.
#33029 of 35164 Re: getting a Jonesing [ohenryx]
Jul 14, 2013 (11:25 am)
In Jersey, no dealers are open Sunday. I assume it is a law down here. Bummer, since that is usually my "free" day!
#33030 of 35164 Re: Little Saturday shopping... [breld]
Jul 14, 2013 (2:27 pm)
The one I drove last week hydroplaned terribly and it was downright scary...have never felt that in either of our subcompacts yet and have driven in even worse conditions. No way I'd ever allow my wife or kids to drive one of these awful vehicles. As for me, I'm sticking with the compact size as I just feel the most comfortable in them. Wife is complaining more and more about some noise in the front end now and keeps asking me when the 2014's are due...think she's about ready to retire her Mazda3. Again I told her that since her vehicle is just an appliance to her and her Mazda is the best vehicle she's ever driven to just wait till the 2014 arrives and go for it if also drives the same. She still refuses to test drive anything so I just gave up...told her to let me know when she picks the vehicle she wants and then call me...she takes all the fun out of test driving anything for me!
#33031 of 35164 Re: getting a Jonesing [28firefighter]
Jul 14, 2013 (3:01 pm)
Was this Barrier or another? S60s aren't selling like hotcakes (which is surprising as they seem to be a good car - but the Barrier lot in Bellevue must have a dozen of them in plain sight, maybe more), I can't believe a good deal can't be done. But you're right, hold your line and don't settle - the only time to make a move is when the deal is right.
#33032 of 35164 Re: getting a Jonesing [fintail]
Jul 14, 2013 (4:01 pm)
No - this was the dealer further north. Extremely nice though, much different from the several encounters I've had with Barrier thus far.
In WA, it seems Sundays are a regular sales day - we visited VW, Subaru, Ford and Nissan. I was the car consultant and my wife and I were also the designated babysitters for my 6 week old nephew while Mom and Dad test drove cars.
Seems to be narrowed down to a Jetta TDI Sportwagen with Sunroof/Nav and the Ford Escape Titanium. I'll post my more detailed thoughts when I have more than 30 seconds.
#33033 of 35164 Re: Little Saturday shopping... [tifighter]
Jul 14, 2013 (7:59 pm)
I'll be interested to hear your thoughts as well with regard to the 500L vs. the Countryman. Similar in process of expanding a one model lineup, but seems to me they ended up with very different vehicles. To me, the Mini is the cool, sporty one, while the Fiat is the more laid-back practical choice. Since I have a fun sporty car, I kinda like the Fiat.
And I agree - that Easy-spec with the nav/uconnect package thrown in is a really good value. I'm hoping it is even a better deal on the used market in a year or so.
#33034 of 35164 A cheap collectible or not?
Jul 15, 2013 (1:28 am)
In looking at Craigslist for cheap low mile transportation type cars I found this:
Normally I would say this was just transportation but seeing that they only made a few thousand coupes that year (6980) could this have any collector value? Just a thought.