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#30469 of 35293 Re: Tampa Run [sandman_6472]
Feb 21, 2013 (6:57 pm)
>> Had a 2013 Chevy Cruze today [..] Who would buy this crap with so many other good choices out there?
I would, begging your pardon, and I just leased one... this is the second time you had a Cruze & hated it.... given your back problems, I wouldn't expect any particular love, but I disagree with your assessment of the car.
Which begs the question, since both of us have an interest in cars and some experience, what's going on? I have only driven the 1.4 T; my own car and an Eco on a test drive. Both were manual 6 speeds, and the clutch and transmission is half the reason I really like the car. The other half is the engine plus the quiet and composed ride... power isn't huge, but certainly better than just adequate.
What I'm not too happy about is the very cocooned and enclosed feeling; stepping into my Vibe, I'm struck by a sense of airiness and headroom... and also by a sense of how loud, rude, and crude the Vibe is in comparison.
Getting into and out of the Cruze is a bit harder, too. Not exactly sports-car like, but even my wife -- 5'2 and skinny -- finds it hard to climb out of the seat.
Maybe the LS with the 1.8 NA engine + automatic is a lot different, but I wouldn't know. In all seriousness, the car that most closely resembles my Cruze is a 2nd-generation A4 turbo stick I drove a decade ago; cloth seats, similar in feeling, solid and heavy and quiet and fast enough.
I had a rental Focus last year and didn't think much about it one way or the other. Go figure.
#30470 of 35293 Re: Tampa Run [sandman_6472]
Feb 21, 2013 (7:00 pm)
31K rental miles might be harsh. I once had a Kia Spectra rental with 25K miles on it that looked like a private car with 250K on it. I hope it was just abused.
Feb 21, 2013 (7:05 pm)
I had the opportunity to rent TWO 2012 Impala's driving them both about 130 miles each (Emerald Club) from the California desert to LAX and back. Actually, both were the same color and mileage (7,500 miles). It drove fairly well but the engine was just plain loud.
It had plenty of room for luggage in the trunk but my back-seat guests complained about the low position of the back seat and it was just plain hard and uncomfortable.
Maybe the new restyled Impala will have better improvements.
Will try something different next time.
#30472 of 35293 Re: The Impala [mark156]
Feb 21, 2013 (7:10 pm)
Well, if you don't have more than one passenger, try a Cruze and see what you think
#30473 of 35293 Re: The Impala [mark156]
Feb 21, 2013 (8:00 pm)
The 2012 model has the GM corporate 3.6 liter overhead cam V6. I haven't driven that one but that engine has been criticized for its harshness. I had the 3.5 liter version as a rental car and thought it rode well. The 3.5 was relatively quiet in that car and felt quicker off the line than the G6 (with the same engine) I had at the time.
#30474 of 35293 Re: The Impala [corvette]
Feb 21, 2013 (8:24 pm)
Corvette, you said the right word about the Impala engine, 'harshness'.... it was definitely harsh!
While in Hawaii, we rented a Buick Enclave.... very large, hard to see around the edges but a nice back-up camera. The second row had buckets which I didn't like as the third row area was piled with luggage. If we had a fifth person, we would have had to put them on the roof I guess. LOL!
It drove well and had the same controls as the Impala (air/radio, etc.).
#30475 of 35293 Re: The Impala [corvette]
Feb 22, 2013 (5:18 am)
I haven't driven that one but that engine has been criticized for its harshness.
Can I have a link please? I have that engine in my 2012 LaCrosse and I can't feel/hear any harshess. It's not quite as refined as a Toyota 2GR, but you can rev it to 6500 and you barely can tell its working.
This was a Ward's 10 best engine a few years back.
#30476 of 35293 Re: Tampa Run [sandman_6472]
Feb 22, 2013 (6:19 am)
Drove a 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee to Orlando yesterday
Hemi or Pentastar V6? I'm guessing V6 since you said it started out slow...
#30477 of 35293 Re: Tampa Run [fintail]
Feb 22, 2013 (6:21 am)
31K rental miles might be harsh.
Sometimes very harsh - I had a Ford Taurus rental with 7k miles, smoked in, and that was perhaps the most miserable car I've ever had to drive.
Thankfully I have a 3rd car, so I drove it from the body shop to home with the windows wide open, and back the day I returned it, that was it.
They could not have given me that car for free.
#30478 of 35293 Re: The Impala [tjc78]
Feb 22, 2013 (6:58 am)
"Can I have a link please? I have that engine in my 2012 LaCrosse and I can't feel/hear any harshess."
I thought I had read that somewhere about the Acadia, but can't find the review anymore, so I retract my statement.