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#30277 of 32408 Re: The Sandman Scale [sandman_6472]
Feb 16, 2013 (5:42 am)
Great write up as always Sandy!
#30278 of 32408 Re: The Sandman Scale [nyccarguy]
Feb 16, 2013 (5:58 am)
Thanks but need to work on paragraphs and punctuation. These need to be readable. Off to start my long week!
#30279 of 32408 Elantra GT Lease deal
Feb 16, 2013 (9:14 am)
So the Hyundai website advertises the following lease deal on a base Elantra GT auto:
$179/month for 24 months, $2,499 down. Reviewing the details and backing into the terms, that comes out to a "purchase price" of MSRP ($20,340), cap cost reduction of $2,320, residual of 75% and an interest rate equivalent of 2.85%.
I assume if nothing else, you can negotiate down that cap cost off of MSRP and thus reduce the down payment.
For those more familiar with leases, how do those terms hit you?
#30280 of 32408 Re: Elantra GT Lease deal [breld]
Feb 16, 2013 (10:40 am)
Adding the 2500 into the lease makes it about $280 per month. You will also want to roll in the sales tax into the payment. The gold standard for evaluating leases is Taking 2 zeros off the msrp for a 36 month lease before taxes. If the msrp is 20k then you want to be as close to $200 per month. On 24 month leases, have no idea how to evaluate. I think the GT is a hot seller so I doubt you can get a smoking lease on one. Honda Pilots and VW Passats are great now -- easy to get to that goal but the heart wants what the heart wants.
#30281 of 32408 Re: Elantra GT test drive [breld]
Feb 16, 2013 (11:57 am)
Now I wonder if the tires had way too much pressure in them on the GT I drove? The Limited sedan was fine with the same tires.
The base model had heated seats, so it's well equipped, but no pano roof stand-alone option like Ford has.
#30282 of 32408 Re: Chronic Tire Buyers Anonymous [tifighter]
Feb 16, 2013 (12:00 pm)
I'm hoping both - more sidewall to absorb bumps, and I got ultra high performance all seasons vs the OEM summer rubber that are hard in cold weather until they warm up.
I'm on Miata.net (juiceman) but not very active.
#30283 of 32408 Re: 2011 Nissan Altima - An 8.5 on "The Sandman Scale" [sandman_6472]
Feb 16, 2013 (11:53 am)
The new one supposedly has zero gravity seats, so you'll have to try them and let us know if that's just hype.
#30284 of 32408 Re: Elantra GT test drive [sandman_6472]
Feb 16, 2013 (12:00 pm)
Like sandman I have the Mazda3 Hatch (an 07) and it has been a real gem in 6 years of ownership. I haven't had a single problem to report for that period unless you count the fact that it was hit twice by other cars and once by hail. All three repairs restored it to a basically new appearance. If I have one niggling complaint it's that it doesn't get as good gas mileage as the Civic it replaced, but Mazda's new Skyactive technology should take care of that. I have the five-speed and Mazda makes a very refined manual transmission.
Although I have no direct experience I have heard countless complaints about Ford's mytouch system as is borne out in sandman's post. I like the look of the new Focus and I know that lower trim lines can be purchased without mytouch or I guess you can learn to live with its idiosyncrasies.
#30285 of 32408 Re: 550 anyone [qbrozen]
Feb 16, 2013 (12:41 pm)
I drove an F10 535i and it struck me as biased too much towards luxury, and not nearly enough towards sport. My first impression? An old man's car.
My wife also drove an F10 and her comment was, "I hate it; it's a boat."
#30286 of 32408 Re: Elantra GT test drive [gogiboy]
Feb 16, 2013 (1:08 pm)
Like sandman I have the Mazda3 Hatch (an 07) and it has been a real gem in 6 years of ownership.
My 2007 MS3 has behaved itself ever since it hit 60,000 miles. At 116,000 miles the front suspension is clunking a bit; if I keep it(the odds are currently 50/50) I'm going to replace strut/shock mounts and fit Bilstein Sports at all four corners.
I window shopped at the Ford dealer yesterday; they had a Focus ST with no options. All of the options I'd like(heated Recaros, HIDs) are bundled with nav and MyFord Sucks, I mean Touch- which gets you close to $29,000. The car just doesn't have any personality, and to add insult to injury it's not nearly as quick as the Mazda either. I also hate to give aid and comfort to the UAW(although I might if the car was compelling enough), so that knocks the ST off the radar screen.
The Abarth is no rocket either, but at least it is an engaging drive; the exhaust not alone is worth the price of adnission.
Still need to check out an FR-S; the nearest dealer is Oxmoron Scion, which is a store I refuse to even visit. Swope owns a Scion store, but it's over on Dixie Highway, which is in the opposite direction from virtually every other destination I visit in Jefferson County...