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#30245 of 32397 Re: 550 anyone [ateixeira]
by fintail
Feb 15, 2013 (12:16 pm)
Well, we're comparing new to new, right? A low mileage CPO S550 etc can be had for the same price as a new Equus, but some don't like that comparison either.
When used, V8 is fine as it doesn't seem to command any premium over others - and might be easier to negotiate, probably less mass market demand.
#30246 of 32397 Re: 550 anyone [fintail]
by boomchek
Feb 15, 2013 (12:21 pm)
When I worked at Hyundai that's what most people (ok, the handful that actually looked at the Equus over a 6 month period) compared them to, - a pre owned S Class or Lexus LS.
I actually had a comparison chart done and the Equus Ultimate (with the 4 seats, massage, etc...) had more features than a 760Li or an S550 for about half the money.
But realistically if I was in the market for a car in this range ($72k CDN) I'd just go for a CPO Benz or Bimmer. The Equus is a perfect car for realtors or companies that want to chauffer their people around in complete luxury but without having to outlay a ton of money (relatively speaking) to do so spend a lot of money on maintenance.
#30247 of 32397 Re: 550 anyone [ateixeira]
by corvette
Feb 15, 2013 (12:22 pm)
That's insane pricing on the new Acura. It would be understandable for them not to offer a V8 if they offered a nice turbo V6.
#30248 of 32397 Re: 550 anyone [ateixeira]
by fintail
Feb 15, 2013 (12:24 pm)
Those headlights, can't be unseen. And the whole thing is just so boring - why would I choose it over a GS? I thought the TL was the big Accord - this even looks like a big Accord. I am curious to see how it performs in AWD mode vs other AWD competitors. That's where it has the greatest chance to shine.
I predict maybe a couple thousand sold (to brand loyalists) initially, then sales ending up where the RL left off.
Oh, and "PAWS"? Funny.
#30249 of 32397 Re: 550 anyone [boomchek]
by fintail
Feb 15, 2013 (12:27 pm)
Sadly, it lacks the design and status desired by shoppers in that category. It's too anonymous, and the badge doesn't have such cred yet. The high model stickers around 65K here, and I can buy a lot of gently used luxoboat for that.
I have to wonder if there are any non-publicized leases available to it for corporate users. The consumer lease deals I have seen weren't amazing.
#30250 of 32397 Re: 550 anyone [fintail]
by boomchek
Feb 15, 2013 (12:43 pm)
Yeah I agree, and like you said in an earlier post, a few will sell to brand loyalists and that's it.
I never see anyone I know aspiring to drive a RL.
#30251 of 32397 Re: 550 anyone [fintail]
by ateixeira
Feb 15, 2013 (12:49 pm)
Well, we're comparing new to new, right?
The V8 Bimmer had 500 miles...I know it's a slippery slope, but that seems more new than CPO to me.
#30252 of 32397 Re: 550 anyone [fintail]
by ateixeira
Feb 15, 2013 (12:50 pm)
I don't mind the headlights, pure function.
AWD should have been standard, if only to get away from the Accord comparisons.
PAWS sounds like Jaguar's name for all wheel drive.
#30253 of 32397 Re: 550 anyone [ateixeira]
by corvette
Feb 15, 2013 (12:58 pm)
"PAWS sounds like Jaguar's name for all wheel drive."
Good one!
#30254 of 32397 Re: 550 anyone [ateixeira]
by fintail
Feb 15, 2013 (1:10 pm)
But also 2 years old. I hope it wasn't sitting outside, untouched, for 2 years.
Regarding the RL, yes, AWD should be standard. It needs something to differentiate itself other than odd eyes.