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#29991 of 32735 Cruze TD by tifighter

Feb 07, 2013 (2:09 pm)

I see the new Cruze diesel has launched at Chicago as well. $25k-ish with standard leather and touchscreen with apps. 42mpg highway, same as the Jetta. Really curious to see how this sells, sounds okay on the surface.

#29992 of 32735 Re: Cruze TD [tifighter] by boomchek

Feb 07, 2013 (3:49 pm)

Replying to: tifighter (Feb 07, 2013 2:09 pm)
The Cruze are actually really nice cars. When I had ther displeasure of working at a GM dealer for a couple of days last year I tried one out. The materials and construction feels solid and they're a well put together package.
 
The unfortunate thing is they'll depreciate like crazy and are a hard sell when priced new almost the same as Civics, Mazda3's and Elantras. But it's a GM car I actually like.
 
There was one at the public auction recently, a loaded 2011 Cruze with manual tranny with only 10 thousand or so kilometers on the odo. I believe it sold for $11-$12k. New ones stickered at about $22k iirc.

#29993 of 32735 Re: Cruze TD [tifighter] by ateixeira

Feb 07, 2013 (4:24 pm)

Replying to: tifighter (Feb 07, 2013 2:09 pm)
We are discussing in both the GM and the Diesel threads.
 
$26 plus with freight is ambitious, but leather and 17" alloys come standard, and GM covers the powertrain for 100k, plus 2 years free service.
 
The bad? Price, timing belt, and it loses almost 15hp vs the euro tune of that engine to meet CARB. Auto only, no stick.
 
It does run on B20.
 
Bet these hold their value better than the gas models do.

#29994 of 32735 Re: Cruze TD [ateixeira] by corvette

Feb 07, 2013 (4:33 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 07, 2013 4:24 pm)
"Bet these hold their value better than the gas models do."
 
I bet so, too. People pay insane money for used VW TDIs, especially when gas prices spike. Note that GM's powertrain warranty is 5 years/100k as opposed to Hyundai/Kia's 10 year/100k plan. I think GM's warranty will transfer if you sell the car, while Hyundai/Kia's won't.

#29995 of 32735 Re: Cruze TD [corvette] by ateixeira

Feb 08, 2013 (7:21 am)

Replying to: corvette (Feb 07, 2013 4:33 pm)
Yeah, you only get the 5/60 portion of the warranty if you buy a used Hyundai or Kia, and that would affect me.
 
Of course, $23k for a 2 year old car that cost low $30s new sort of reflects that in the price. The used one only has 3 years left on the warranty, vs. 10 for new.

#29996 of 32735 Re: Cruze TD [corvette] by dieselone

Feb 08, 2013 (7:53 am)

Replying to: corvette (Feb 07, 2013 4:33 pm)
I bet so, too. People pay insane money for used VW TDIs
 
I can verify that fact. I sold my '00 TDI a year and a half after I bought it new and sold it for only $3k less than I paid for it with over 35k miles. I had people contacting me from all over country. At that time a new one was going for over sticker.

#29997 of 32735 New Chevy Spark by sandman_6472

Feb 09, 2013 (5:39 am)

New Spark by sandman_6472
Feb 08, 2013 (8:21 pm)
Drove in a small caravan of new Spark's from Lauderdale airport to a Hertz in Clearwater today and for what it is, it's not bad at all! It drove respectfully though it is a little noisy in the cabin from the overworked engine but once up around cruising speed, 70, it quieted down some. Wish the seat fabric was a bit more grippy and softer like the Kia Rio and the Hyundai Accent but at this price point one can overlook this shortcoming. The dash was interesting and tilted with the steering wheel and it looks like it was taken off a motorcycle. It was pretty basic inside though these models had cruise and Sirius/XM, a very nice touch indeed! It made the long drive pleasant but we had to put in a few bucks of petrol just to reach our destination. Granted with 6 miles on the clock, the engine is brand new and not seated properly so getting optimal mileage numbers isn't going to happen but still, those last few bars disappeared rather quickly. The sheet metal is a bit interesting but since these are made just for the rental fleet, it doesn't really matter. The car felt a bit wobbly on the highway but that could be due to improper tire inflation and nothing with the car itself as it did ride on 195/55/15 rubber. One knows that this is a small econocar by just opening the doors but it has all the basics needed plus the above mentioned extra goodies that people who rent require.
Overall, Chevy did a respectable job with this small rental fare vehicle, most folks want a low priced rental and this car definitely fits the bill here. Not as primitive as a Flintstone car but no one will expect Lexus quality ride and switchgear at this bargain price...it hits it's stated target with an almost bulls eye! Chevy and GM...ya done good here!
  
The Sandman

#29998 of 32735 Re: now this, is nice [ateixeira] by sandman_6472

Feb 09, 2013 (5:46 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 07, 2013 8:53 am)
Go to Ebay and look there. I did that back in'07 and got rims from a '05 Civic SI for my '06 LX and they were in pretty good condition. I paid a very reasonable price for them, as there was a small section of curb rash on one of them. Since they were Honda oem equipment, I knew the fitment would be perfect...and it was. Got some new lugs and brought them to my mechanic where I had them shipped. Transformed the looks of the car and make it a bit distinct looking. I'm pleased every day still even though the wife thought I was insane. Still have the old steelies and bolt on covers in the garage so if I ever do sell it, they can go with the car.
 
Ebay is the perfect place to look. Took me less than a wek to find exactly what I was looking for and the seller was excellent to deal with.
 
The Sandman

#29999 of 32735 Wrong Directions And A Smart Phone by sandman_6472

Feb 09, 2013 (5:59 am)

Thinking I should upgrade to a smart phone soon. Yesterday's trip to Clearwater was an adventure as we were given wrong directions to begin with. We were going to a Hertz store in town and not an airport site but we'd never been to this particular store before. The directions were wrong and the new Spark got down to 2 bars so stopping for petrol was happening. Got off to put some in and got back on 275 but the exit number I was looking for didn't exist...ended up in downtown Tampa. Called the boss and eventually got turned around and while keeping our cells on, I eventually got to the site. Naturally I was dead last and the rest of the crew was waiting on my sorry ass. After some ribbing, we were off back to Lauderdale. Having a smart phone would have made it possible to plug in the address so the gps could get me to the correct address. A Garmin unit would also work, but they are a bit bulky and I think a smart phone is the better alternative. Seems like they are the future in communication so why not do it now. Couldn't part of the cost be a tax write off also? need to ask the wife about that.
Nothing on tap for the weekend...as of right now. But that could change!
 
The Sandman

#30000 of 32735 Re: New Chevy Spark [sandman_6472] by ateixeira

Feb 09, 2013 (8:50 am)

Replying to: sandman_6472 (Feb 09, 2013 5:39 am)
You can get low cost Navi on the screen by installing an app on your smart phone. Cheap, cheap.
 
My kids liked it but it is a bit toy like for me. The Sonic feels more like a real car.
 
Thanks for the eBay tip, will look.
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