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#29627 of 35366 Panoramic Moonroofs - who has 'em?
Jan 28, 2013 (10:33 am)
Hyundai Elantra GT has a nice one.
Veloster also offers a nice one but I hate that it has 18" wheels and the back seat is pointless.
Prius V offers one, but I'm sorta looking for a small car right now.
Audi A3 has one, but a TDI with the roof is over $30k, my most expensive choice by far.
Tried a 500C but it felt tinny and the useless back seats doesn't help, plus you can't see behind you when it's folded.
So....who else? Aiming for $25k or less, list price.
#29628 of 35366 Re: Panoramic Moonroofs - who has 'em? [ateixeira]
Jan 28, 2013 (10:39 am)
Does list price mean new car or blue book?
Out of that list, I would pick the GT.
#29629 of 35366 Re: Panoramic Moonroofs - who has 'em? [ateixeira]
Jan 28, 2013 (11:06 am)
Having a VIP contact at SOA is nice. I never have to worry about supply/demand pricing. Not that I could convince my wife to get one. maybe this summer, when my son needs one!
Roofs? not too many cheaper cars with them. Mini cooper is an obvious choice. Does Scion still make the tC? that had a nice one.
what are you looking to do? Replace the miata, or relegate it to toy status, with the new car becoming the commuter?
#29630 of 35366 Re: Panoramic Moonroofs - who has 'em? [ateixeira]
Jan 28, 2013 (11:13 am)
Good question - I can't think of any others off the top of my head. Many of the German wagons have/had them, but obviously way over the $25k threshold. VW's Jetta wagon has one - but that model is closer to $28k.
I guess Hyundai should be commended for offering them on entry-level cars - though last summer when my wife and I were looking at the Veloster, the salesperson showed us one in the repair shop on which the sunroof had shattered while the driver was on the highway. Not sure what the circumstances were, but in any case, that would have scared the bejeesus out of me. I think since then I read that there was some potential recall on those sunroofs.
#29631 of 35366 Re: Panoramic Moonroofs - who has 'em? [fintail]
Jan 28, 2013 (11:15 am)
Yeah, I think the old C "coupe" (it was a hatch) was the first vehicle I sampled that had one.
Feels like a convertible but more liveable day to day.
#29633 of 35366 Re: Panoramic Moonroofs - who has 'em? [ateixeira]
Jan 28, 2013 (11:23 am)
I've been thinking about the history of the modern pano roof. It was offered as an optional SL hardtop starting ~1996, I think - that might be the first. The C-coupe and W211 E-class starting production in 2002 both had it, and from then it caught on. It can be had on almost every MB model today. The F11 5er Touring I once rented in Germany had it too. I like them too.
#29634 of 35366 Re: Panoramic Moonroofs - who has 'em? [stickguy]
Jan 28, 2013 (11:23 am)
Cooper - correct. Catch is the back seat failed our kid test, plus it wants premium fuel, which around here is priced like liquid gold. Bigger Coopers pricing gets out of hand.
Scion tC - not a big fan of the new one, I liked the old one better. Plus even though it technically has a hatch, it feels like a coupe, and isn't very practical. The real deal killer is that I sat in one and felt claustrophobic, so it's not on the short list.
If I proceed, yeah, this would replace the Miata.
I really should have kept my NA Miata. The new one is too nice. Isn't that a funny thing to say? Low profile tires and sport suspension get beat up on DC's potholes. It's quicker than I need. Tiny gas tank means the low fuel light goes on way too often. Premium fuel recommended.
The old one had a lower cowl and doors, felt more open, used cheaper fuel and less of it.
I know it sounds weird, but the NA was more pure, open, simple, and that's what a Miata should be.
Of course the good news is I paid $22k 5 years ago and they still sell for $17k, so depreciation is basically nothing. About $83 per month. Can't call that a mistake, not by a long shot.
#29635 of 35366 Re: Panoramic Moonroofs - who has 'em? [breld]
Jan 28, 2013 (11:24 am)
Also saw that recall. Would not scare me away, they did replace them after all.
#29636 of 35366 Re: Panoramic Moonroofs - who has 'em? [fintail]
Jan 28, 2013 (11:26 am)
They're still pushing the envelope now with the ones that change from shaded to open at the touch of a button.
The Elantra GT also has the biggest Nav screen, at 7". The best packaging, basically.