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#29446 of 32321 Re: more oddities [andre1969] by oldfarmer50

Jan 21, 2013 (12:53 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 21, 2013 6:59 am)
"...much effort into performance..."
 
Didn't Pontiac have a 6cyl. In the late 60s that put out 215hp? I think they put it in the firebird. Not bad for a 6.
 
The mid to late 70s was dismal all around.

#29447 of 32321 Re: more oddities [oldfarmer50] by roadburner

Jan 21, 2013 (1:14 pm)

Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 21, 2013 12:53 pm)
Didn't Pontiac have a 6cyl. In the late 60s that put out 215hp? I think they put it in the firebird. Not bad for a 6.
 
That would be the OHC Sprint motor. A really nice engine, but unjustly overshadowed by the mega-horsepower V8s of the period. Read more here.

#29448 of 32321 Re: more oddities [roadburner] by rayainsw

Jan 21, 2013 (1:58 pm)

Replying to: roadburner (Jan 21, 2013 1:14 pm)
C+D actually put one of those in an E-Type Jag.
- Ray
Oddity, indeed.....

#29449 of 32321 Re: more oddities [oldfarmer50] by andre1969

Jan 21, 2013 (1:59 pm)

Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 21, 2013 12:53 pm)
Yeah, it started life in 1966 as a 230 CID engine, offered in the Tempest/LeMans, with 207 hp. For 1967, it went to 215 hp and was offered in the Firebird as well. For '68 it was stroked to 250 CID, but still with 215 hp. For 1969, it peaked out at 230 hp.
 
Those were very good numbers, for a 6-cyl. Most of them only put out around 140-155 hp.
 
And, while those were gross numbers, that 215-230 hp probably translates to around 140-160 net. So, still in range of what some ~350 CID engines were putting out in the mid-70's.
 
I've heard that the OHC-6 tended to go through timing belts every 20-30,000 miles. But other than that, I haven't heard anything bad about it. I'd imagine it's an interference engine though, so that could throw a wrench into things, if you're not religious about changing those belts!
 
And, I wonder if the problem with the belts was that, simply, the material wasn't as good in those days? If you had one of those engines today, I wonder if the improved materials would yield a longer lasting belt? Or, was it just something about the engine that was hard on them?

#29450 of 32321 Re: more oddities [dieselone] by stickguy

Jan 21, 2013 (2:29 pm)

Replying to: dieselone (Jan 21, 2013 8:05 am)
1975 was not the high water mark.
 
but compared to the L6 Gremlin and Toyota Corolla I had (both '75s) I am sure the Vette still sounded and felt like a rocket ship.

#29451 of 32321 milestone - 2 of them by stickguy

Jan 21, 2013 (4:16 pm)

I think I hit 2 milestones today on my last "punch". I believe the Integra is now officially with me for 1 month (I had it a week longer I think before I could get to the DMV to register it). So consider it a 1 month anniversary.
 
and I hit 100 miles on it today! At the pace I am going, it might be the Ides of March before I need to put gas in it again (does gas spoil like milk?)

#29452 of 32321 Re: milestone - 2 of them [stickguy] by ateixeira

Jan 21, 2013 (6:17 pm)

Replying to: stickguy (Jan 21, 2013 4:16 pm)
Add some sta-bil to your gas to help it last longer.

#29453 of 32321 Re: milestone - 2 of them [ateixeira] by stickguy

Jan 21, 2013 (6:26 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 21, 2013 6:17 pm)
It's a small tank, and I never let it get that low. I think I can get by without it.

#29454 of 32321 are we spoiled? by stickguy

Jan 21, 2013 (6:30 pm)

driving my "old fashioned" car (a MY 2000 is old fashioned, right?) I realized how used to some features I have become.
 
it is a shock to not have keyless entry (let alone comfort access/push button start, which my wife is now addicted to), an outside temp gauge, radio that tells you what song is playing, stereo controls on the steering wheel, TPM (I absolutely love this!), auto lights, a trip computer with multi functions, and probably some more stuff that I am forgetting. And other than the TPM and push button start, my '07 Volvo has all the other stuff.
 
I need my luxury darned it. Plus a car that is not 3" off the ground. You know how hard it is to haul an old carcass out of a low slung bolstered sports seat?

#29455 of 32321 Re: are we spoiled? [stickguy] by tjc78

Jan 21, 2013 (6:35 pm)

Replying to: stickguy (Jan 21, 2013 6:30 pm)
My 04 is completely loaded for its time, but yes there are some newer things I miss.
 
Cooled seats
XM
Nav
TPMS
Back up cam/parking sensors
#1 though is Bluetooth!
 
In the spring I'm installing a Navigation/XM/Bluetooth unit. This will help out a lot.
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