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#29119 of 32322 Re: help [qbrozen] by corvette

Jan 08, 2013 (3:11 pm)

Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 08, 2013 3:02 pm)
A leftover 2012 Civic leaves a lot to be desired from an enthusiast's perspective, but will meet their numbers, even with zero down:
 
http://www.weymouthhonda.com/lease/?&code=FB2F5CEW&leasetype=2

#29120 of 32322 Re: AWD? V8? Under $30K? [nyccarguy] by corvette

Jan 08, 2013 (3:17 pm)

Replying to: nyccarguy (Jan 08, 2013 3:01 pm)
"...4 doors, AWD, nice sized trunk..."
 
A BMW 550 xDrive or X5 would also meet those criteria.

#29121 of 32322 Re: AWD? V8? Under $30K? [nyccarguy] by michaell

Jan 08, 2013 (3:17 pm)

Replying to: nyccarguy (Jan 08, 2013 1:58 pm)
While I'm sure our winters in (way) Southern New England pail in comparison to yours in Colorado, I have AWD in my current 328xi and LOVE it (the AWD & the BMW).
 
You'd be surprised. My wife and I always claim that there are about 10 days a year where you really NEED AWD. I've driven FWD cars pretty much the whole time I've lived in Colorado (19+ years now) and I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times I wished I had AWD.
 
In fact, I've never even used winter tires while living in CO.
 
Having said that, in the 15 years we've been married, the wife and I have had 5 AWD vehicles (Expedition, Explorer, 2 VUEs and the CX-7). Even though she's a native, the wife likes the security of having AWD available to her on those days where the daughter's MINI just won't cut in on the drive to work.
 
For some reason, the AWD versions of the 300 and Charger are very obvious - like they are on tippy-toes. Quattro Audis, 4Matic MBs and xDrive BMWs look much like their 2WD counterparts.

#29122 of 32322 Re: Another 335i [breld] by breld

Jan 08, 2013 (3:26 pm)

Replying to: breld (Jan 08, 2013 9:57 am)
Well, my "trial period" with the Audi is over. We went and looked at the 335 over lunch - it checked out great so with a little haggling on the trade value, it's a done deal (or will be in a couple of hours when we go back).
 
Their no-haggle pricing on the BMW was solid; their trade offer was reasonable, but I did get them to come up $500 to match NADA's average trade value, so overall feel good about the whole thing.
 
The 335 is in great shape - no dings, scratches, chips that I could see. Windows are tinted and clear bra is already installed, so a couple of things that I would normally do are done.
 
The red interior is not nearly as bright as in the pictures - much more subdued. I still don't know if I'd choose it if I were to order the car, but since this one has it, it's sort of fun.
 
So, an m-sport, manual, navigation 335xi. They've been hard to come by, and we've actually had a couple we were interested in that sold quicker than we could decide, so I'm excited about getting our hands on this one.

#29123 of 32322 Re: AWD? V8? Under $30K? [michaell] by breld

Jan 08, 2013 (3:31 pm)

Replying to: michaell (Jan 08, 2013 3:17 pm)
Yeah, Michael's right. When Colorado gets hit with a big storm, dropping 3-4 feet of snow in the metro area, it makes national news, but the reality is that happens rarely (none in the past couple seasons) and even when it does, the sun's out the next day or two and it all melts away.
 
But I do like having AWD, even recognizing that a lot of it is mental. Havings said that, given snowy/icy conditions, I'd take our Odyssey with Blizzaks over the X3 with all-seasons any day. Now, my previous CX-9 with Blizzaks - that inspired a lot of confidence in the snowy conditions.

#29124 of 32322 Re: Another 335i [breld] by xwesx

Jan 08, 2013 (4:22 pm)

Replying to: breld (Jan 08, 2013 3:26 pm)
Congrats!
 
It looks like a fun car. I'm not a big fan of sedans, but I could go for that one. It's funny that the steering wheel looks nearly identical to the on in my Forester (shape/styling/buttons).
 
I thought the interior was a bit garish upon first glance, but I think I would feel much differently about it in person. That car looks like it has some spirit - enough to keep you interested for a while, anyway!

#29125 of 32322 Re: Another 335i [breld] by roadburner

Jan 08, 2013 (5:44 pm)

Replying to: breld (Jan 08, 2013 3:26 pm)
Good deal on a great car!

#29126 of 32322 Re: Another 335i [breld] by nyccarguy

Jan 08, 2013 (6:41 pm)

Replying to: breld (Jan 08, 2013 3:26 pm)
Congrats! You will LOVE that car! Awesome color combination! Mazel-Tov & congratulations!

#29127 of 32322 Re: AWD? V8? Under $30K? [corvette] by nyccarguy

Jan 08, 2013 (6:47 pm)

Replying to: corvette (Jan 08, 2013 3:17 pm)
True, but find me one under $30K;)

#29128 of 32322 Re: AWD? V8? Under $30K? [michaell] by nyccarguy

Jan 08, 2013 (7:04 pm)

Replying to: michaell (Jan 08, 2013 3:17 pm)
I'd probably agree with you that there are probably only 10 days a year here where the AWD is necessary. From 2002 - 2011 I got by with snow tires on my FWD Prelude & NEVER got stuck. I also know that AWD/4WD helps you start, & the added weight probably hampers avoidance maneuvers & braking performance in the snow.
 
I'm also pretty sure that A LOT of how well my 328xi drives in the snow has to do with the traction & stability control. Shut those off and my car will spin & slide if I want it to.
 
Maybe it does give me a false confidence. Back in my younger days on edmunds, I'd argue that all one needs is RWD & dedicated snow tires. Now, the snow tires are such a pain, especially since 4 tires wouldn't fit in my 328xi.
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