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There are others! by trigger
Jul 17, 2009 (10:02 am)
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Hi, my name is Charles and I'm a Chronic Car buyer.
 
I've actually been on the wagon for the last three years. But I've got an itch that just won't go away. Financially I know it's not the right thing to do, but I want to do it anyway. My only debt is my mortgage and my vehicle, so I figure everyone has to have at least one vice. Am I right or am I right?
 
Looking to get a GMC/Chevy with the 6.2l engine. I test drove a Sierra Denali and it was fast.
 
And these are my cars (since 1998 when I graduated college)
Started out with a parent paid-for 1995 Silverado
 
1998 Silverado 4x4
1999 Acura TL (my legs were too long, never should have purchased)
1999 F150 4x4
2002 Sierra Denali
2004 Silverado
2006 F150 KR 4x4
 
That's not as bad as some of the others I've seen earlier in this thread, but it's many more than just about all my friends/peers.
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Re: Should I do it? [nippononly] by fintail
Jul 17, 2009 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 16, 2009 11:10 pm)

I hope the seller isn't pricing it based on this...
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Re: Should I do it? [fintail] by fezo
Jul 17, 2009 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 17, 2009 12:01 pm)

Love the brown on brown. Really gives it that period touch.
 
Bring the price down by a little - say $10K or more - and I might be interested....
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Re: Woo-Hoo! [woodyww] by roadburner
Jul 17, 2009 (9:13 pm)
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Replying to: woodyww (Jul 17, 2009 9:15 am)

Are you taking pics &/or documenting the restoration on any website? It'd probably make a good article for your local club magazine.
 
I'm thinking about it. I've got several "before" pictures so I might just open a blog on my CarSpace page. I've been really fortunate in that I've been able to pick up a lot of stuff for much less than I budgeted for. Which means that there must be a huge financial land mine down the road; a restoration project NEVER comes in under budget.
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Re: Should I do it? [nippononly] by js06gv
Jul 18, 2009 (4:22 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 16, 2009 11:10 pm)

Wow, you bring back some nostalgia for me too on a car I haven't thought about in awhile. My dad bought a brand new '83 Celica GT black hatch 5-speed. We had been living in Calgary for a couple of years at the time. We were transferred to Houston in Oct. '83 and sold it after about a year. Great car, and was supposed to eventually be mine as I was getting my license about 3 years later.
 
Looking back, I guess the car was a little unique as the body style came out in '82 and only had the "pop forward" headlamps through '83. In '84 the lamps were redesigned to a typical "pop up" style.
 
If the price isn't ridiculously strong, I'd say go for it.
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Re: Should I do it? [nippononly] by lilengineerboy
Jul 18, 2009 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 16, 2009 11:10 pm)

A Toyota dealer near me, for some reason (not sure why they would keep one on the lot so old), has an '83 Celica GT liftback for sale. It seems to be in really nice shape (they were closed when I looked at it), paint is good, tires are new, interior looks good, it has 133K on it. And it's a stick. In '83 they were still RWD and that's also the first year of fuel injection. I have had a few of these over the years, so the nostalgia quotient is high.
 
So that's a 22RE? IF it doesn't rust it will run forever. Its not excessively powerful, but its kinda fun to kick around.
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celica by qbrozen
Jul 18, 2009 (5:14 pm)
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Wow. You guys are really generous. Even if its perfect and needs nothing, I would put $2500 as the end all be all price. Most likely, its less than $2k, though.
 
Easy enough to look up, but just to throw this out there ... if michaell's folks broke a timing belt in one, it couldn't have the 22RE, as that had a chain (at least the one in my '87 4runner did).
 
edit: hmmm... but, sure nough, it had the 22R and RE. Although wiki is kinda iffy. First they say "All North American cars had the 22r and re," but then they add "the carbureted 2.0 was also used." Huh?
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Re: nippon [michaell] by lilengineerboy
Jul 18, 2009 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: michaell (Jul 17, 2009 5:04 am)

Was quite reliable until they forgot to change the timing belt and it snapped on my mom when she was about 30-40 miles from home. Oops. Was still a pretty fun car - I got a ticket in it once coming back from LA with my aunt in the car. Double oops.
 
Are you sure that wasn't a Corolla GTS? I am pretty sure the 22R/RE all had chains. The only other upside is I think its a non-interference engine so its just a matter of throwing on a new rubber band.
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Re: celica [qbrozen] by bumpy
Jul 18, 2009 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 18, 2009 5:14 pm)

22R = carb 2.0; 22RE = efi 2.0 (probably throttle-body injection in those days). I think Toyota had gone to a single-row timing chain by then, too.
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Re: celica [qbrozen] by woodyww
Jul 19, 2009 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 18, 2009 5:14 pm)

Even if its perfect and needs nothing, I would put $2500 as the end all be all price. Most likely, its less than $2k, though.
 
What did early '80's celica's cost brand new? $5K-$10K? And now it's 16 years old, so almost by definition it's a "project car", or will be, even if fairly nice. I remember those cars, but to 99% of all people, they'll just look at it as a 16 year old toyota with no air bags (I think?), when you go to sell, a car for a college kid who's scraped together $2000-ish--then it's a great deal.....
 
Not saying Nippon shouldn't want it or buy it, but personally I'd be as frugal as an old Danish Farmer on this one......with moths flying out of his wallet......

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