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A task for the fine minds by stickguy
Jul 12, 2009 (4:32 pm)
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that hang out here.
 
My sister is looking to replace a 1998 Maxima SE (AT) shortly, so that is the frame of reference for these requirements. not that she is picky or anything, but at least she doesnt want to pay too much. She is also single, so the car is just for her.
 
Oh, and the fold down rear seats are so she can stick a mountain bike in there.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
Car must list:
Have 4 doors
Automatic transmission
Fold down rear seats
Alarm system
Antilock brakes
Side curtain airbags (front)
Automatic door opener/window down on key fob
Alloy wheels (no 15" stuff I rather like the bigger tires)
Power driver seat
CD (nothing fancy needed for the radio but perhaps an Ipod connection)
  
My on the fence wish list
Navi system - really want
Sun roof - will miss terribly if I don't have
Would like stability control
Not really keen on hybrid stuff but would consider if the car still has power and was predominately gas powered.
  
So what I'm considering are:
Accord & Altima (both might be to big so I have to do some width measurements because of my garage turn)
Sonata
Civic - haven't sized it up.
  
I'd like to keep the price no more than $22K
 
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
So, what are all of your fine opinions? I'll post my recommendations later!
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Re: A task for the fine minds [stickguy] by lilengineerboy
Jul 12, 2009 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: stickguy (Jul 12, 2009 4:32 pm)


My sister is looking to replace a 1998 Maxima SE (AT) shortly, so that is the frame of reference for these requirements. not that she is picky or anything, but at least she doesnt want to pay too much. She is also single, so the car is just for her.
  
Oh, and the fold down rear seats are so she can stick a mountain bike in there.

 
You should really at least look at a Fusion or Milan. The 2.5 4 cylinder with the 6 speed automatic is relatively thrifty and offers some semblance of performance.
The Fusion SE has a moons/toons option that gets you premium sound, SYNC, and a moonroof.
 
Is it limited to 4 doors, or are 5 okay? The Mazda3 hatch has been very popular.
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Re: A task for the fine minds [stickguy] by british_rover
Jul 12, 2009 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: stickguy (Jul 12, 2009 4:32 pm)

Does it have to be new?
 
2007 or 2008 Volvo S60 with the six year 100,000 mile certification should be right around $22,000.
 
Has everything you are looking for and the 2008 S60 has an iPod connection.
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details by stickguy
Jul 12, 2009 (6:35 pm)
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Has to be new (her issue, not mine). 5 door could work. She drove a Sonata (rental) and didnt like it (too spongy, almost Camry like). Guess she has gotten used to a firm ride and steering feel on the Maxima!
 
She is also the one that bought a Fiat 850 spider when she was about 20. My BIL to be hated that thing, since he got stuck working on it!
 
I suggested the Sonata, Mazda 6, Altima and Fusion, with Legacy and Volvo V50 as dark horse entrants.
 
Subes out, doesn't want AWD. She read good things about the Fusion, but hated the high rise trunk and poor rear view (a big problem with many sedans now, after drving a nice low slung Maxima).
 
Ny Neice has a 2006 Mazda 6, which sis seems to like. The new one is a bit bigger though, but I expect she will like how it drives. Her friend fot a deal on an Altima 2.5s last year, so that is still in the running.
 
I think something like the Volvo would be more functional for her, but hey, it's her money. THe safe and sound offer is a nice feature too. Pretty much gas and go for 5 years or 60K (even covers wear items). Hard to beat that.
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Re: details [stickguy] by british_rover
Jul 12, 2009 (6:40 pm)
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Replying to: stickguy (Jul 12, 2009 6:35 pm)

You won't get a V50 or a S40 for any where near 22k. The new car programs are much better on a S60 because of the model close out and production end.
 
You can get a FWD S60 Special Edition for 26ish or maybe a little less with some hard bargaining. The Special Edition S60s have the sexier 17 inch wheels too.
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price by stickguy
Jul 12, 2009 (6:46 pm)
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supposedly the 22K is a bit flexible for something really special.
 
Not being willing to take leather lets out most high end or Euro cars anyway.
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Re: A task for the fine minds [stickguy] by corvette
Jul 12, 2009 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: stickguy (Jul 12, 2009 4:32 pm)

That's a long list for a $22k (new) car. Also, the keyfob window down trick really limits your options--BMW, Volvo, and Nissan are the only ones I know of who have it.
 
Almost anything with a four-cylinder is going to seem noisy and cheap after having a Maxima with a VQ30DE. Why not look at a gently used Maxima or Altima V6 for around $20k? You probably won't find one with stability control, as Nissan disdains safety features and only included it on the very top model, but I think it would meet the other requirements. May be hard to find one without leather.
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Re: price [stickguy] by british_rover
Jul 12, 2009 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: stickguy (Jul 12, 2009 6:46 pm)

Oh I missed that she doesn't want leather?
 
I run across people like that from time to time.
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Max by stickguy
Jul 12, 2009 (7:03 pm)
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I expect any maxima is going to have leather. Not sure about the fold down seats either.
 
Honda has the roll down windows feature, but I don't think that's a deal breaker.
 
I don't think the 4 cyl is going to be a problem Especially the one in the 6 or Altima, since they are pretty powerful IMO.
 
She has also had some recurring problems with the engine, and would probably be happy to get something different.
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Re: my CCB club membership.. [woodyww] by corvette
Jul 12, 2009 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: woodyww (Jul 12, 2009 10:45 am)

I was looking around online and found a used car dealer in Cinci who has a 2006 Mini Cooper S with around 45k, priced right. Then I took a gander at the Mini boards to see what was involved in changing the fluid in the automatic transmission. I saw a bunch of threads on things like broken gloveboxes and a topic with a ton of replies on broken suspension mounts--reminded me of the VW I used to own! Not to mention I'm 100 miles from the nearest Mini dealer.
 
My G6 is still shuddering at highway speed. I've driven two others with the same powertrain and tire size that don't have the same problem, so at least that's probably not the way it's designed.

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