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Re: income [nippononly] by corvette
Jun 15, 2009 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 15, 2009 6:53 am)

Credit requirements for leasing are typically more stringent than for getting a loan.
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Re: income [nippononly] by boomchek
Jun 15, 2009 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 15, 2009 6:53 am)

The way that banks and lenders look at people with poor credit that make good money is this:
 
If you have solid income then why aren't you paying your bills? If you have poor credit due to a divorce but had no recent lates then it's a different story.
 
However if you divorced a few years ago, and you're still late and over the limit on every credit card you have then it's not a divroce issue, but you not being able to manage your money properly, especially if you make good money.
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Re: tried to [nippononly] by woodyww
Jun 15, 2009 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 14, 2009 12:15 am)

This really stinks--I feel bad for her. But instead of looking at $9K used cars, in her situation, could she find a $2-3K used car that runs, is not a total POS, & come up with the cash?
 
Being abused at all those dealers for all those hours sounds like a nightmare--(duh)--but even if she manages to finance something with her credit score, no warranty, etc., she may be just digging herself in deeper.
 
Of course the dealers don't have to be so rude about it, but some of them are like that even if you have 800 credit scores, even before they know your situation......
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lease by stickguy
Jun 15, 2009 (12:19 pm)
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Yeah, I know it is harder to get a lease. My point though was, in the case of poor credit histroy but OK income and current activity (the divorce hole scenerio), a lease is actually much safer than a loan on a used car (especially a well used one).
 
At least in the sube example, you can budget exactly what you need. No surprise month with tires and a blown tranny say to derail the train. You got your $215 payment, insurance, and gas. That's it, and all very budgetable.
 
As a bank, which scenrio is more likely to = o ntime repayments vs. a repo?
 
Anyway, given all these factors, it sounds like her only real hope is a relative will co-sign for her. Not like giving money outright, just taking on the risk you end up with a car and payments! But, as long as the car is worth it and the payments low, not a huge risk (again, the Sube lease example).
 
Doesn't sound like pouring the money into the Mitsu was a good idea. 4K later, you stil lhave a high mileage POC Galant worth 1K at most.
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Re: lease [stickguy] by woodyww
Jun 16, 2009 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: stickguy (Jun 15, 2009 12:19 pm)

Stickguy's sube $215 mo. lease payment idea sounds like a great option--if only she could qualify for that. Spending $1800 on that old Mitsu sounds like the very worst idea, to me.
 
Is taking the bus actually an option? There are good reasons for public trans, if available.....
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Re: lease [woodyww] by nippononly
Jun 16, 2009 (1:26 pm)
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Replying to: woodyww (Jun 16, 2009 11:34 am)

Did I mention that she is here visiting from El Paso Texas, and has no way home without her car? El Paso bus service is close to non-existent, think LA-grade service and then go a little worse.
 
So we could put her on the train or something, but she would be car-less at the other end of the line.
 
OTOH, even if she could buy a $2000 beater from the BHPH lot, I doubt it would make it back to Texas from NorCal.
 
No way would she qualify for the Sube lease, or ANY manufacturer's lease promo I would imagine.
 
Latest word is her mother may try to buy a car for her, on which she would have to make the payments of course. Boy, things get complicated fast when you don't have good credit. Hers was ruined by medical bills that cropped up for the mutual child during the divorce, which are many thousands in amount and now in collections due to the ex disputing his obligation to pay them (despite the court order).
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reply by oregonboy
Jun 16, 2009 (11:10 pm)
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As they say, "It's expensive to be poor"
 
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Re: lease [nippononly] by andre1969
Jun 17, 2009 (4:08 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 16, 2009 1:26 pm)

Did I mention that she is here visiting from El Paso Texas, and has no way home without her car? El Paso bus service is close to non-existent, think LA-grade service and then go a little worse.
 
I wonder how strict inspections, emissions regs, etc are in Texas? The last time I was down there, in 2002, there were tons of old cheap cars still on the streets, moving under their own power. The types of stuff that rusted out ages ago up here, and that now you only see trotted out to car shows, or rotting away in junkyards that forgot to crush them. So I was under the impression that it might not be that strict down there.
 
So once back in Texas, maybe it wouldn't be too hard for her to find some cheap beater?
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Re: lease [andre1969] by nippononly
Jun 17, 2009 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 17, 2009 4:08 am)

Apparently there is something unique to El paso which limits the number of cheap beaters available: because it is right on the border and across the river from the huge city of Juarez, Mexican dealers regularly comb the streets of El Paso for super-cheap cars which they then take across the border to sell to Mexicans.
 
Whoever said it was right: it IS expensive to be poor. Especially poor and suffering through a bad divorce.
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Re: lease [nippononly] by au1994
Jun 17, 2009 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 17, 2009 6:34 am)

Its pretty common in border towns for people who commute across for work to have a "border beater". A former boss transferred to a facility in Reynosa and lived in McAllen, TX. His daily driver was a then new Z3. He bought a clapped out Bronco II to drive across the border every day.

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