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Re: GTI [corvette] by roadburner
Dec 01, 2008 (9:08 pm)
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Replying to: corvette (Dec 01, 2008 7:31 pm)

Thing about VW is that their dealer network stinks--not just in certain parts of the US, but all over.
 
You can say that again; as I noted several months ago, I really liked the GTI, but VWoA's stupid option bundling policies and the fact that none of the Louisville dealers hire service techs with opposable thumbs knocked the VW out of contention.
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VW by stickguy
Dec 02, 2008 (3:34 am)
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took a look last night. Nice car. Very roomy for it's size, and lots of features. Loved the giant sat. radio interface (wasn't active, but put my Accord display to shame). Not enamored of the optional 18" wheels, but they are on the car.
 
Took a quick lap around the parking lot (it was late and raining) so don't really have a feel for it. Going back today to take a real test drive. Have to pick up my car anyway (left it for service).
 
From looking on the net, it does have the DSG (a plus), but a smallish gas tank and requires premium (a minus). So let's see how the test drive goes.
 
I also plan to look at the A3 again. Depending on the price and how equipped, it might be a better overall package (and slightly more "mature"), and should drive similarly.
 
At least the VW has a nice warranty. Even with putting on a lot of miles/year, starting with 12K on a '07, the 4/50 (and 5/60 powertrain) should last a lot of years!
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Re: VW [stickguy] by fezo
Dec 02, 2008 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: stickguy (Dec 02, 2008 3:34 am)

And a good warranty is exactly what you need in a VW! Well, that and a mechanic with opposable thumbs...
 
I would LOVE for VW to address their reliability and dealer issues. They make wonderful cars for their price point.
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Re: VW [fezo] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 02, 2008 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 02, 2008 11:52 am)

They dropped that 50K warranty for '09, though...
 
Now, they have the same 3/36 with 5/60 drivetrain that everyone else has... Mazda did the same thing...
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Re: VW [kyfdx] by british_rover
Dec 02, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 02, 2008 12:00 pm)

They added 3/36 of maintenance but I would rather have the longer warranty.
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Re: GTI [corvette] by woodyww
Dec 02, 2008 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: corvette (Dec 01, 2008 7:31 pm)

Thing about VW is that their dealer network stinks--not just in certain parts of the US, but all over
 
When I bought my 1990 Passat, the dealer/salespeople were like the Keystone Kops. I had to keep going back & forth between the dealership & the RMV to get the car registered because the dealership kept screwing up the paperwork.
 
Then, when it started breaking almost immediately, the same kind of thing with the service dept. Fastest I ever traded a car.....
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Re: GTI [woodyww] by fezo
Dec 02, 2008 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: woodyww (Dec 02, 2008 1:10 pm)

If they'd throw the electrical in with the powertrain warranty we'd be talking.
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thanks guy. by stickguy
Dec 03, 2008 (8:57 am)
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really giving me the warm fuzzies here!
 
at least it has the 4/50 b2b. Not sure of the in service date, but it must have close to 3 years (and 38K) to get the bugs worked out. Plus another 1 year/10K on the expensive moving parts.
 
So yeah, a problematic car would be a drag (not that I expect it would be), but at least it won't cost me any money!
 
Took the GTI for a test drive. Quite nice, and polar opposite to my Accord in ride/handling/steering feel. Pretty hard seats though, not sure how they will be on a long drive (hopefully just supportive!)
 
took a longer (maybe 3 mile) test drive. Loved the steering. Pulls like my lab when he sees a squirrel (as in hard!). sticks like glue. Tons of features and goodies.
 
couple of drawbacks: Still think it needs premium (but offset by pretty good RW mileage). Big hassle is the tires. The 18" wheels came with hi po summer continentals. Not likely to be much fun on a long commute on hilly roads when it gets snowy or icy.
 
So, a set of 17's + snows + TPMS from tirerack adds ~$1,300 to the up front cost. Probably better to just have a good all season 18" put on and hope for the best. Not sure what to do with the contis though... I assume they are originals, but certainly not worn out yet. That might run about $600 on the road, depending on the tires picked (prices are all over the board in that size, 225/40/18).
 
If I had the stamina, I might troll craigs or ebay looking for a set of take off 17" OEMs with AS tires. I would prefer a 17/45 series over 18/40 for the driving I do.
 
Hmm., may find someone that wants to trade!
 
gonna look at an A3 this week to to compare the ride/feel/room comfort. And of course, price.
 
Nice car though. If I still worked local and wasn't putting on so many miles, it would be even more attractive (plus I could nurse the winter on the tobaggon tires!)
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I would by guss
Dec 03, 2008 (11:21 am)
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try the GTI forums classifieds. When I had my Mazda6 there was always someone looking to upgrade their tires , and I sold an extra set I had for decent money.
 
With a car like the GTI, the guys in their 20's have lots of money to burn for wheels & tires and would jump on those 18's.If you are going down to 17's , you may come out ahead.
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Re: I would [guss] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 03, 2008 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: guss (Dec 03, 2008 11:21 am)

That's a good idea.... See if you can do a straight swap for 17s...
 
If you go with winters on new wheels, I'd leave off the sensors... Not worth the $250..
 
I love the GTI... wish I'd got one, instead of my Subie..

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