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so woody by stickguy
Nov 30, 2008 (6:03 pm)
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you buy a house yet?
 
j/k. But you can be the pot this week. I want to be the kettle!
 
No, I don't technically "need" a car, but probably about 5% of sales go to someone that can't keep their current ride.
 
So, I get to be picky. If I can't find just what I want, I don't have to buy.
 
But, there are some limitations to the Accord. At minimum, I need to get new tires (if not snows) before thw real winter hits. And it will never grow a cargo area, which means I ain't taking the dog very far (without having to find a time when the wifes van is idle). And the stick can be a drag when the road becomes gridlock (the occasional 2.5 hour 42 mile commute).
 
combine that with budget limitations, and the excessive miles (which are only guaranteed (or almost) until 3.30.08, when they could go back to almost zero 9contact expires).
 
Combine all that, and I don't want something to guzzle gas, but mpg isn't the ultimate decision maker.
 
And yeah, I do have good taste to go along with my chintzy pocketbook!
 
But, I really have trouble justifying another sedan, just to get an AT.
 
and I do know what I want. It just doesn't seem to exist 9at least none have been coming through Manheim lately).
 
I thought about the 9-2X when they were sold new. Not a bad option, but probably really rare. And I would have to try out the WRX motor with an automatic. I have only ever driven it with a stick.
 
Might be too small though.
 
long winded post to say that a V70 is the perfect combo for me. Right size, decent enough MPG, fantastic seats, and suitable for family travel duty. and ultimately it could replace the minivan.
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Re: question for Qbrozen [stickguy] by qbrozen
Nov 30, 2008 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: stickguy (Nov 29, 2008 5:59 pm)

WELL, I don't think you'll like the answer ...
 
I have a tough time breaking 21 mpg. Its the one true downside to the car. I love it, though, so I simply deal with it. Its fast, AWD, and a heavy luxo car. Not an economical equation.
 
I'm sure you remember I was in the same situation as you. Driving an Accord. I grew to really hate it. I had the V6 6-speed, so was getting 28 mpg. But at what price? I'll take the 21 mpg and love my car.
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the wife by stickguy
Nov 30, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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is also (I think) dropping hints. She did make a passing comment not too far back about maybe she should get a new car (to replace the '05 Odyssey). Then she got practical (still works well, etc.). Then over the holiday she mentioned (in a family discussion about other peoples shopping) that she didn't want anothe minivan.
 
I doubt she will come out and try to pull rank, but it wouldn't bother me at all to replace the van. I still don't quite trust it...
 
So maybe I should snag a good deal on an XC90 for her, and just keep mine (or go cheap on a replacement!)
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Re: so woody [stickguy] by qbrozen
Nov 30, 2008 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: stickguy (Nov 30, 2008 6:03 pm)

so hold out for a V70. It'll come.
 
I had the same issue before I bought my S70 T5. After finally deciding that was the car I wanted, I waited quite a while to find the right one. It was worth it.
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thanks Q by stickguy
Nov 30, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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trouble for me is, I don't know if my 500+ miles per week is going to be long term, or just through Q1 next year. If it becomes permanent, that's a lot of miles at measly mileage. Might as well just get an X3 and get the cargo space! and something more useful as the damily truckster.
 
I know that anything I buy won't get the same mileage I get now, but I kind of have ~25 as the floor. Maybe I can find a deal on a 3 series wagon instead....
 
I thought when I stopped requiring a stick it would get easier. Never figured I would get hooked on the 1 car (V70) that is rare as hens teeth!
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V70 by stickguy
Nov 30, 2008 (6:14 pm)
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I suppose it will. One other factor is working with JRL, and the 11th may be the perfect time to grab something (supply vs. demand baby!) Assuming, of course, that the something is running that day... and the only V70 IIRC is a non-turbo, and I ain't doing that. Or an R, now that could get me to bend on the MPG requirement!
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I'm still by nippononly
Dec 01, 2008 (9:00 am)
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messing around, idly car shopping, looked at a '99 RAV4 yesterday, my favorite generation of that little car (back when it was still actually little), green, 117K, stick shift (of course!), AWD (back then it was a 50/50 split system like the manual-shift Subes have), brand new Yokohamas. They are asking $8K, it is fully loaded except for moonroof, in really nice shape, drove just like it was new, t-belt has been done.
 
I figure they would take $6, maybe $6.5, so why didn't I pull the trigger? I don't know, maybe I am over my CCBS. Even relatively good deals just don't get me revved up to make a deal any more...
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options by stickguy
Dec 01, 2008 (9:29 am)
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Did some more thinking (to make Woody happy!) At this point, cars I like that should fit my odd set of requirements (and likely price point):
 
Favorites:
 
BMW 3 series wagon (05-06)
Volvo V70 2.5T (05-06)
Audi A3 2.0T DSG (06?) (need to drive this one again. Been a while) But an Audi?
 
Dark horses (violate the MPG floor, and the no-SUV rule, but these I like):
 
BMW X3 2.5i (06)
Mazda CX-7 (07) - need to drive at some point. So far have only sat in it.
 
Of course, of the 5, only the X3 is likely available in any real supply at the auction.
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Re: options [stickguy] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 01, 2008 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: stickguy (Dec 01, 2008 9:29 am)

Did they even have a 2.5 engine available in '06?
 
That would be very hard to find... With an automatic, you'll likely do just as well with the 3.0 on the highway..
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X3 by stickguy
Dec 01, 2008 (9:53 am)
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they still had the 2.5i model I think in 2006. certainly in '05.
 
they are both 3.0l though (even though they kept the 2.5 nomenclature). Just not as fancy valvetrain, and a bit less HP, offset by a bit less $$!)

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