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Re: Local dealer [michaell] by guss
Nov 08, 2008 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: michaell (Nov 07, 2008 10:21 pm)

Buick is dead. GM has just not bothered to tell them. I don't know how they can stay a division with just 3 cars. I know they are big in China, but why can't they transfer that success here.
 
It looks like GMAC is choking off the credit to all but the most qualified buyers.
 
I must be out getting old , but $42k for a Chevy station wagon is outrageous. I guess it makes $45k for the Enclave look like a bargain.
 
akangl, when you start to get serious about buying a truck you should look at new. A bare bone 2 wd can be had cheap. I can't believe you could get a better deal used.
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Re: Akangl [akangl] by mark156
Nov 08, 2008 (9:56 pm)
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Replying to: akangl (Nov 08, 2008 4:44 pm)

Well, call me a city boy as I thought a Pony was a young horse. What makes a Pony a Pony? Is there a size difference?
 
Glad to hear that you moved. They showed perma-frost on the Alaska show and how a mess it can be with global warming. Who would have thought putting gravel over it would keep it from thawing!
 
I think I'll stay in Palm Springs..... the coldest we get at night is in the 40's in the winter.... every once in a while we hit freezing but for just a very short time. I think the last time we had snow was in the 1930's (from what I hear, I wasn't born until the late 50's) .
 
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Re: Akangl [mark156] by akangl
Nov 08, 2008 (10:16 pm)
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Replying to: mark156 (Nov 08, 2008 9:56 pm)

Well, call me a city boy as I thought a Pony was a young horse. What makes a Pony a Pony? Is there a size difference?
 
Ok city boy! A pony is any horse under 14.2 hands at the withers (highest point of the shoulders). A hand is 4" so that means any horse under 58". Both of mine are considered ponies. Bug is about 35 years old and Tucker is about 20 years old, neither of them are spring chickens.
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Re: Akangl [akangl] by boomchek
Nov 09, 2008 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: akangl (Nov 08, 2008 10:16 pm)

Thanks for the explanation... I also thought a Pony is a young horse, hence I was wondering if your Pony is 35 years old, how long do horses live then?
 
And speaking of new trucks, Guss is right, there are some very good deals to be had right now.
 
We're blowing out Rams like never before.... a loaded SXT 1500 with a Hemi and Quad Cab, tow pakg (7500 lb tow capacity) that stickers at $41k MSRP can be had for about $27k CDN right now. You might have even better deals in the US.
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Here I go again... by roadburner
Nov 09, 2008 (2:21 pm)
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I'm really having second thoughts about holding on to my Mazdaspeed3. It's a great car to drive(even if it is FWD) and my selling dealer has an excellent service service department, but several problems are giving me pause.
1. The selling dealer is located 2100 miles away from my house. It's not so bad to drive up for service, but recently...
 
2. The LF strut was dead at 25000 miles, and the turbo went belly up at 26000 miles- and only ONE track weekend The dealer gives me a loaner to take home, but I still wind up driving 400 miles per defect.
 
3. So, you ask, how come I don't use one of my local(Louisville) dealers? Good question. Well, the locals have a policy of never hiring service techs with opposable thumbs. And the parts departments charge significantly over MSRP for parts. How does $250 for front pads sound? No, not parts and labor; $250 for just the pads.
 
So that's where I'm at. The only cars that I'm considering are used BMWs. I have a great local dealer, a great indie shop, and I've been driving and wrenching on them for over 25 years. A local used car lot has a 2003 330i 6 spd. Performance Package car that still has a bit of BMW CPO warranty left. I think I could get it for the Mazda and $2K. I'm debating whether to run the Mazda a bit more and see how it holds up, but of course it will continue to depreciate. Any thoughts?
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Re: Here I go again... [roadburner] by corvette
Nov 09, 2008 (5:41 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Nov 09, 2008 2:21 pm)

Well, you're halfway through the warranty on the Mazdaspeed3. If you hold out through the end, you can just take it to an independent mechanic for repairs or wrench on it yourself. That said, blowing a turbo at 26,000 miles is troubling.
 
Inconvenient service (only 2 dealers in the state) is one reason I'm not keeping the Audi...
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Re: Here I go again... [corvette] by roadburner
Nov 09, 2008 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: corvette (Nov 09, 2008 5:41 pm)

Well, you're halfway through the warranty on the Mazdaspeed3. If you hold out through the end, you can just take it to an independent mechanic for repairs or wrench on it yourself.
 
True enough. What really concerns me is the possibility that the new turbo will die in another 26000 miles when the heap is out of warranty. I'll be staring at a $1500-$2000 repair bill. That CPO 330i has 17 months/40,000 miles worth of warranty left, and I seriously doubt that it will need much more than brakes and scheduled maintenance for the next 3-4 years.
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Re: Here I go again... [roadburner] by qbrozen
Nov 10, 2008 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Nov 09, 2008 7:19 pm)

Interesting about your turbo. My competition at the autoX is going to need a tranny rebuild on his MS3 with about 18k miles. He's having a recurring problem of it popping out of 2nd. Usually an indicator of bad syncros. Now, is it his driving? Maybe. But he's about 60 years old and has been racing for about half that time. So I would tend to think he's not completely to blame.
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Re: Here I go again... [qbrozen] by roadburner
Nov 10, 2008 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 10, 2008 9:45 am)

Interesting about your turbo. My competition at the autoX is going to need a tranny rebuild on his MS3 with about 18k miles. He's having a recurring problem of it popping out of 2nd.
 
The seals on the MS3 turbos are failing, and more than a few MS3s have the problem. If the car idles for more than 3-4 minutes a thick cloud of blue/white smoke pours out of the exhaust. I've too have heard of a few transmissions going south. I wanted to keep the car for at least 4-6 years, but now I just want to unload it before:
1. The warranty expires, and
2. The car's reputation for reliability catches up with its resale value...
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RB by stickguy
Nov 10, 2008 (6:02 pm)
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the 330 sounds like a sweet car. ANd you obviously want it. I know the symptoms, so no matter how wwell the Mazda behaves, you will find something to pick on!
 
If you really can get a swap done for that small difference, pull the trigger. You will be happy you did.
 
And you are upgrading. The ones I worry about are when someone talks themselves into selling something nice like a BMW to buy something practical like a Cobalt. That never works out!
 
Just ask Jolie...

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