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Re: Home fill unit alternative to FuelMaker [d_link] by igotgas
Apr 04, 2008 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: d_link (Aug 22, 2007 7:45 pm)

Nothing Positve to say about this place ....
 
Just keep an open mind ask them for a lot of proof
 
certifications and patents... I have not seen any
 
sor far it looks like a box with a hose.....
 
Don't get Hosed....
 
"Buyer beware"
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Re: 3000 to 3600psi conversion [patcng] by netdomain
Apr 21, 2008 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: patcng (Aug 22, 2007 3:05 pm)

Hi there Patcng,
Can you send me information on how to modify the head for FM4 please? It'll be appreciated. I can even pay you for helping me out.
 
Can you please e-mail me on netdomainhotmail.com please?
 
Thanks,
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Government Auctions by robmmar
Jun 07, 2008 (1:03 pm)
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I have done quite a bit of research on CNG vehicles over the course of the last two years, and I am now ready to purchase something...probably a used Honda. Does anyone out there have any information on government auctions or other web sites I might be able to keep an Eye out for. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Rob
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Re: Government Auctions [robmmar] by marty2611
Jun 07, 2008 (3:09 pm)
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Replying to: robmmar (Jun 07, 2008 1:03 pm)

Rob,
 
You may have missed the boat. CNG vehicles are the hottest vehicles on the market today. A honda Civic that I bought last year for $4700 is now selling for over $13000 with more miles. I saw 1999 Ford trucks go at the government auction on Friday for $20,000 with CNG and the same truck without CNG go for $4900. Good luck in your search but with the high cost of gasoline, CNG cars are demanding a premium price.
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Re: Government Auctions [robmmar] by d_link
Jun 08, 2008 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: robmmar (Jun 07, 2008 1:03 pm)

We have owned a Honda Civic GX since December 1998 (80,000 miles) and know it to be an excellent vehicle. The only negative is that you must plan ahead if you intend to drive over 200 miles from your home (be certain that you have a current list of all public CNG refuel stations in your area--24 hour stations are preferred, but private ones are occasionally available if you contact them when in dire need and ask for assistance). Our current cost per gas gallon equivalent (gge) is $2.39. If we were to compress at home with our own FuelMaker or other compressor, the cost would drop to approximately half that amount per gge.
 
I don't know your US state, but following are the sites which I have used for assistance. Happy hunting:
 
CNG motors in Arizona (updating their site, but often had Hondas for sale in the past): http://www.cngmotors.com/index.php
 
Pacific Gas & Electric in California (our local CNG company): http://www.pge.com/cleanair/
 
Southern California Gas: http://www.socalgas.com/business/ngv/
 
California Natural Gas Vehicle Coalition (very valuable resource, but also updating their website): http://www.cngvc.org/cngvc.html
 
Natural Gas Vehicle Owners Association: http://ngvoa.com/
 
Clean Vehicle Education Foundation: http://www.cleanvehicle.org/
 
Natural Gas Vehicles for America: http://www.ngvc.org/
 
Honda USA site for Civic GX sales (new): http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-gx/
 
International Association for NGV (frustrating discovering all the alternatives available around the world when we have so few in US): http://www.iangv.org/
 
And FuelMaker, of course, though the Phill price jumped through the roof from initial expectations of $1,000 to $1,900 per unit (tax benefits reduce the current $3,500+ price, but...): http://www.fuelmaker.com/Products/NaturalGasRefueling/
 
David
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Re: Progress [lee14u] by jwillardh
Jun 29, 2008 (4:04 pm)
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Replying to: lee14u (Mar 25, 2008 6:27 am)

Can you give me any contact information for the place out of Fresno that has cng parts? Thanks.
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Re: Progress [jwillardh] by lee14u
Jun 30, 2008 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: jwillardh (Jun 29, 2008 4:04 pm)

Its
 
A-1 Alternative Fuel Systems
2320 Stanislaus St.
Fresno, CA 93721-1222
 
(559)485-4427
a1autoelectricsbcglobal.net
www.a1autoelectric.com
 
Good Luck
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just bought cng/bi-fuel by amdalmon
Aug 17, 2008 (7:39 pm)
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We just bought a Chevy Cavalier CNG/B-Fuel couple of months ago. We like the car fine, it's really great. We thought it would be really great, but we just don't drive it enough to recover the cost of it quickly enough. We are considering selling it. Would anone have any suggestions or advice, to keep it, or sell it. We only drive about 200 miles per week, CNG is $1.14 and gasoline is $3.34. It gets almost 30 mpg CNG.
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Ford Focus by CleanFuel
Jan 03, 2009 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: d_link (Jul 19, 2007 7:30 am)

Personally, I think the Focus offers several advantages over the Honda GX.
 
Cheaper, much nicer trim levels and electronics and a EPA certified system is available, qualifying for federal and local incentives. Even at $10k (less rebates etc.) for the conversion, it ends up being cheaper than the GX.
 
Mine is a 2008 Focus 5 speed 2 door SES with leather interior. The CNG system is clearly one of the best I've ever seen.
 
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