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353 messages, Last post on Jan 03, 2009 at 6:37 PM
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I'm looking to purchase a used Honda GX (natural gas) does any one out there know of a used car web sight and or dealer that sells them please let me know 
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Replying to: rudylhernandez (Feb 13, 2008 3:17 pm) |
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Replying to: rudylhernandez (Feb 13, 2008 3:17 pm) http://www.cngmotors.com/index.php Good hunting. We have enjoyed our 1998 GX for close to 80,000 miles now. |
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| Is well gas, direct from well without the propane and butane removed, ok to run through a refuelling device and run in the vehicle? | |
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Replying to: lee14u (Mar 06, 2008 10:14 am) "Natural gas is a gaseous fossil fuel consisting primarily of methane but including significant quantities of ethane, propane, butane, and pentane—heavy hydrocarbons removed later on as condensate—as well as carbon dioxide, nitrogen, helium and hydrogen sulfide." wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas The levels of hydrogen sulfide present would probably overwhelm the adsorption unit designed to remove the mercaptan odorant in commercial natural gas, and the levels of uncombustible gasses could be significant. You'd never know how far you could go on a fill. Then there would be the problem of the heavier hydrocarbons possibly condensing to a liquid in the tank. But this raises the question of feeding a Fuel Maker with gasified LPG (aka propane), say an LPG designed for a cold climate. What would happen? |
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Replying to: lee14u (Mar 06, 2008 10:14 am) I've personally met a guy in PA who is in same situation as you. He is looking into what needs added (like dryer, etc.) and Fuelmaker to compress the cng. Check into what tax credits are available where you live (in CA, UT, & OK there are state tax credits, on top of Federal tax credit). Fed will give you $1,000 for purchase of Fuelmaker (but only if new). You might consider used Fuelmaker as they are very reliable - - C3 and FM4 would be 3,000 psi models, while newest model is FMQ2-36 which is 3,600 psi model (all these models compress at about 1 gge per hour). Of these, best is fmq2-36 as heads will go 4,000 hours before needing rebuild. I would NOT recommend Phill as only compresses 0.5 gge per hour and quite expensive once you consider rebuild cost of compressor and fact that it only goes 2,000 hours before needing head rebuilt. You could also add a cascade of few cng storage tanks and have your own fast-fill. In helping PA guy with well do his research, found terrific cng user also in PA who has been through all this on his country farm. He's built thorough website that documents his natural gas well being drilled on his farm, and all the efforts needed to get that well gas ready for use in Fuelmaker. Brian actually BUILT HIS OWN DRYER and lists all the parts needed, along with suppliers he used. You can do the same with simple supplies like pvc plastic pipe, etc. See website at: http://littlemetalshop.com/ Also, I would recommend you also join www.cngchat.com which has lots of cng information as well. Finally, see www.cngprices.com which is terrific for locating public cng pumps - - backup to this site is Alternative Fuels Data Center (Federal website) at: http://afdcmap2.nrel.gov/locator/findpane.asp Go CNG !!! Spread The Word as CNG is definitely what is needed all across the USA to reduce dependence on foreign crude oil, AND drastically reduce pollution. Pressure local gas company, cities, post office, transportation companies, etc. to either open new public cng pump, or open a private cng site so that public can use it with just a credit card. Everyone in USA also need to pressure US auto dealers to bring more cng cars to USA. GM has GM/Opel Zafira cng (sold everywhere except USA) ; Ford has Focus cng (sold everywhere except USA) ; Mercedes (various models sold everywhere except USA) ; VW has Ecofuel Caddy cng & recent announcement of Passat bi-fuel (PLEASE urge VW to bring both of these to USA!!!!) For now, best and only car sold in USA is Honda Civic GX (dedicated cng) which has been named Cleanest Car On The Planet for 5 years straight . . I have one and love it!! |
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A really big THANK YOU to you guys, especially you kscng for all the new resources. Jim314, I appreciate you responding also. You both gave my renewed confidence in this forum. Stay tuned - maybe we'll all learn something about the properties of ng. I did purchase a newly rebuilt FMQ2-36 and very close to bringing online - 220 elec and ng supply plumbing now complete. Still dealing with issues of adequate water column and filters. I should have the analysis results back this Monday of the specific properties associated with my particular ng supply direct from well-tap and I will continue to post related info as I progress. Well see if this thread catches a few of us out there on the fringe. Now, on to the research of the material kscng provided. Thanks again. |
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Replying to: patcng (Aug 22, 2007 3:05 pm) Curious whether the idea of converting 3,000 psi to 3,600 psi is safe?? Does it just require changing the refueling male fitting?? Any ecm changes needed?? I've got 2000 Contour that I'd like to change to 3,600 psi. Also, I just bought used fmq2-36 and was curious if that unit could run past 4,000 hour limit imposed by Fuelmaker?? Please email back to cng_across_usa  yahoo.com Thanks !! |
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Replying to: kscng (Mar 07, 2008 4:06 pm) |
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Replying to: lee14u (Mar 09, 2008 2:30 pm) |
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