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A reporter seeks to talk with consumers who own a natural gas vehicle. Please send the make and model of your vehicle along with your daytime contact information to ctalati edmunds.com no later than Wednesday, November 14, 2007.
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Replying to: KarenS (Nov 15, 2007 6:13 am)
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Replying to: jetboatjohnny (Nov 16, 2007 11:02 am) |
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Replying to: whoolia (Aug 16, 2007 6:38 pm) Can you send me a sticker as well? My email is in my user profile. Thanks, Bud Raymond. |
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I am interested in buying a Honda GX. However, natural gas is not available in my area. I would like to know if these cars can run on propane, or if not, what needs to be done to allow them to use propane.
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Replying to: jimcarr3 (Dec 19, 2007 12:56 pm) Just curious, why propane ? it costs as much as gasoline, unless you have a free or almost free supply. If I could find a dedicated propane vehicle meeting california ulev or sulev emission standards, I would buy one myself , but only for carpool lane access.
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Replying to: lakewood90712 (Dec 20, 2007 5:54 pm) Why propane? Because it isn't just about money. Although the ecological aspects of alternative fuel cars are important to me, there is a more practical reason. I have been monitoring the output of the major crude oil producers, and I don't like what I see. Output for all of them is in decline. Meanwhile consumption continues to rise. Most alarming, consumption by the producers themselves is rising even faster than industrial newcomers like China and India. (Saudi Arabia, our supplier of last resort, is in the lead here.) This leaves less and less oil for them to supply to an outside world that is consuming more and more crude. I remember the gasoline shortage during the Carter presidency with long lines just to get to a gas pump and many people in my area not being able to get sufficient gasoline at any price. And that situation was not nearly as serious as what we are facing today. Like most people, my family has to have at least one car that can keep running in such a situation. My ideal car is a plugin electric; but they won't be available for two years at least. Fuel cell cars are out because natural gas is not available in my area. Hybrids, although they use less of it, still need gasoline.
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Replying to: jimcarr3 (Dec 21, 2007 9:07 am) As to PHEVs not being available for at least two years, they are available NOW. The only negatives are that you will void your Toyota warranty if you have one of the Lithium Ion battery packs installed in your spare tire well and will be out $10-$12K. I just had a demo ride in a PHEV Toyota Prius this week. It is the first of 10 PHEV Prius which the University of California at Davis Institute of Transportation Studies will have available for a long-term study of their durability, emissions, equivalent mpgs, etc. The battery pack is 5KWh from Hymotion. During the entire demo for my middle school Computer Applications students (part of their research project on Alternative Fuel Vehicles), the gasoline engine started only once. The vehicle was well over 100mpg on its way to my school and excited my students tremendously. Biomethane is increasingly available in Sweden, Canada has a research facility in Vancouver, and PG&E is working toward capturing methane before it goes to waste and further damages the environment. A PHEV running on biomethane and battery power is my ideal. A serial hybrid, in my opinion, would be more efficient than a parallel with a constant speed CNG generator recharging the batteries, rather than dual duty of recharging and driving the wheels. This would also solve the problem of PHEVs possibly being "dirtier" than hybrids without pure EV mode. More on that when UC Davis finishes their study with the 10 Prius PHEVs. |
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I'm looking to purchase a used Honda GX (natural gas) does any one out there know of a used car web sight and or dealer that sells them please let me know 
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