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#317 of 353 Re: Ford Contour Natural Gas Transmission Problems [bob9876] by bank1avp Nov 02, 2007 (8:11 pm)
Replying to: bob9876 (Oct 15, 2007 9:20 am) Bob - I have not dealt with Contours in quite some time. Last I tried I paid $980 for a compuvalve (my cost) - which is a common item to fail along with the trannies. $1k- $1500 soundss right to me. I really don't suggest repairing this vehicle though. It will turn into a money pit. Compuvalve now, tranny later, ect... You can part it out for more than it's worth whole. The car was a bad design to begin with. Then the CNG system on this car was engineered even worse. the Compuvalve on the under side of the engine 6 inches from the ground is not so smart. I learned all this the hard way after selling about 30 of them in my early days and losing a lot of money in the process.The Cavalier is a much better sub for the Contour. Civic is even better. In comparison the cavalier does nto have a compuvalve but a low pressure regulator, that if required replacement is $250 from GM at www.gmpartsdirect.com   I will not sell Contours anymore or take them in on trade. I stand behind all my cars and I just can't afford to stand behind a Contour.
#318 of 353 Press Request by KarenS HOST Nov 15, 2007 (6:13 am)
A reporter seeks to talk with consumers who own a natural gas vehicle. Please send the make and model of your vehicle along with your daytime contact information to ctalatiedmunds.com no later than Wednesday, November 14, 2007. Replies to this message: jetboatjohnny (Nov 16, 2007 11:02 am) kirstie_h (Nov 16, 2007 11:31 am)
#320 of 353 Re: Press Request [KarenS] by jetboatjohnny Nov 16, 2007 (11:02 am)
Replying to: KarenS (Nov 15, 2007 6:13 am) How can we do that when the 14th was the day before you posted it? Replies to this message: kirstie_h (Nov 16, 2007 11:31 am)
#321 of 353 Re: Press Request [jetboatjohnny] by kirstie_h HOST Nov 16, 2007 (11:31 am)
Replying to: jetboatjohnny (Nov 16, 2007 11:02 am) Doh! Deadline changed to today.
#322 of 353 Re: Where to get CNG fueled vehicle labels? [whoolia] by nostrom0 Dec 09, 2007 (7:58 pm)
Replying to: whoolia (Aug 16, 2007 6:38 pm) Hi,   Can you send me a sticker as well? My email is in my user profile.   Thanks,   Bud Raymond.
#323 of 353 JC by jimcarr3 Dec 19, 2007 (12:56 pm)
I am interested in buying a Honda GX. However, natural gas is not available in my area. I would like to know if these cars can run on propane, or if not, what needs to be done to allow them to use propane. Replies to this message: lakewood90712 (Dec 20, 2007 5:54 pm) jimcarr3 (Dec 21, 2007 9:07 am) d_link (Dec 21, 2007 1:01 pm)
#324 of 353 Re: JC [jimcarr3] by lakewood90712 Dec 20, 2007 (5:54 pm)
Replying to: jimcarr3 (Dec 19, 2007 12:56 pm) The GX is very CNG specific. The engine mechanical parts would work just fine , but it has the special cng specific fuel injectors and ecm. If you want a propane or bi-fuel light truck or car, contact Murphy at CNGMOTORS.COM. Ford , Dodge and GM made them for several years. If it can be found, he will find one for you.   Just curious, why propane ? it costs as much as gasoline, unless you have a free or almost free supply.   If I could find a dedicated propane vehicle meeting california ulev or sulev emission standards, I would buy one myself , but only for carpool lane access. Replies to this message: jimcarr3 (Dec 21, 2007 9:07 am) d_link (Dec 21, 2007 1:01 pm)
#325 of 353 Re: JC [lakewood90712] by jimcarr3 Dec 21, 2007 (9:07 am)
Replying to: lakewood90712 (Dec 20, 2007 5:54 pm) Thank you for the answer to my question, Lakewood.   Why propane? Because it isn't just about money. Although the ecological aspects of alternative fuel cars are important to me, there is a more practical reason. I have been monitoring the output of the major crude oil producers, and I don't like what I see. Output for all of them is in decline. Meanwhile consumption continues to rise. Most alarming, consumption by the producers themselves is rising even faster than industrial newcomers like China and India. (Saudi Arabia, our supplier of last resort, is in the lead here.) This leaves less and less oil for them to supply to an outside world that is consuming more and more crude. I remember the gasoline shortage during the Carter presidency with long lines just to get to a gas pump and many people in my area not being able to get sufficient gasoline at any price. And that situation was not nearly as serious as what we are facing today. Like most people, my family has to have at least one car that can keep running in such a situation.   My ideal car is a plugin electric; but they won't be available for two years at least. Fuel cell cars are out because natural gas is not available in my area. Hybrids, although they use less of it, still need gasoline. Replies to this message: d_link (Dec 21, 2007 1:01 pm)
#326 of 353 Re: JC [Propane and Plugin Hybrids] by d_link Dec 21, 2007 (1:01 pm)
Replying to: jimcarr3 (Dec 21, 2007 9:07 am) Propane is definitely much more expensive than CNG. It also has a much greater environmental impact than CNG, pollutes more, and is much less energy dense (lower power and worse mileage). CNG is also becoming available in several locations as biomethane, created from rotting garbage, animal waste, and other cellulosic waste. These experimental plants have the potential to diversify the energy market outside of the petro industry. Farmers in California are already working with PG&E on methane reclamation projects that greatly reduce their greenhouse gas contributions.   As to PHEVs not being available for at least two years, they are available NOW. The only negatives are that you will void your Toyota warranty if you have one of the Lithium Ion battery packs installed in your spare tire well and will be out $10-$12K. I just had a demo ride in a PHEV Toyota Prius this week. It is the first of 10 PHEV Prius which the University of California at Davis Institute of Transportation Studies will have available for a long-term study of their durability, emissions, equivalent mpgs, etc. The battery pack is 5KWh from Hymotion. During the entire demo for my middle school Computer Applications students (part of their research project on Alternative Fuel Vehicles), the gasoline engine started only once. The vehicle was well over 100mpg on its way to my school and excited my students tremendously.   Biomethane is increasingly available in Sweden, Canada has a research facility in Vancouver, and PG&E is working toward capturing methane before it goes to waste and further damages the environment. A PHEV running on biomethane and battery power is my ideal. A serial hybrid, in my opinion, would be more efficient than a parallel with a constant speed CNG generator recharging the batteries, rather than dual duty of recharging and driving the wheels. This would also solve the problem of PHEVs possibly being "dirtier" than hybrids without pure EV mode. More on that when UC Davis finishes their study with the 10 Prius PHEVs.

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