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#301 of 353 Re: FOR SALE: FMQ-36
Oct 01, 2007 (5:46 pm)
Please reply with information on your FuelMaker FMQ-36 (is it actually an FMQ-2-36?). How many hours do you have on the compressor? Do you have an indoor fill attachment or is it only for outdoor?
We have a Honda Civic GX and have owned it new since Dec. 1998. We are not impressed with Phill, especially since FuelMaker originally told us that it would cost $2,000 the first year and would drop to $1,000 within a year or two. We almost purchased a used FMQ-2-36 5 years ago, but held off waiting for Phill. That was a mistake, since Phill came out $700 higher than the used FMQ-2-36.
We live in California, near Sacramento, but have relatives in Queen Creek, so transportation would be an easier problem to solve.
Thanks for the information.
#303 of 353 Re: Ford Contour Natural Gas Transmission Problems [marty2611]
Oct 05, 2007 (8:12 am)
Marty I hate to say this but your Contour is probably worth more in parts than in the whole. There are a lot of Contour owners out there with bad Compuvalves that would probably pay $1000 for it. The tank is worth a potential $500. The engine again to another CNG Contour owner $750 - $1500. You add these up and it's probably more than what you paid for the car. I don't carry Contours or 01 GX's for the precise problems you are experiencing. But if you want to replace the tranny any way I agree the price is high, you can get a low mile junk yard tranny with a warranty for about $750. Plus another $500 or so to inatall it. But I will warn you this will not be the last of your problems with this car, it's just the beginning. I am only speaking from experience I have sold over 30 Contours and what it cost me to fix them and make them right I ending up losing a lot of money. I carry pretty much every year make and model of CNG vehicles but you will never find either one of these cars anymore on my lot.
#304 of 353 Re: Ford Contour Natural Gas Transmission Problems [bank1avp]
Oct 05, 2007 (2:01 pm)
Marty...like I said before...I know a mechanic that will have one rebuilt (like new) for $750 plus about $100-150 labor to take out the old one and install the new one. If you pay over $1000 you are paying TOO much.
#305 of 353 CNG stations - does it bother you?
Oct 09, 2007 (9:38 am)
something that has always bothered me about public CNG stations is their means for pressurizing the gas. part of the reason i chose the GX (as with many of us) is the clean nature of the car. but every CNG station that i've been to has a big, ugly diesel engine that is used to pressurize the gas. often it is hidden away, but at my local Berkeley Trillium it is right next to the pumps, and often scares the hell out of me as it fires up. i don't know if all stations have such an inefficient way of doing things, but at the Trillium, i can not even fill my tank 5 GGE w/out the diesel engine kicking on and running for an excess of 5 minutes (i sat and timed it ... damn scientists always have to be some empirical). so 5 minutes of big pollution (this isn't one of the new breed of clean diesels) for my CLEAN lifestyle.
is anyone else bothered by this?? the net pollution of this combination must be worse than just running gas or even diesel. clearly, an electric compressor (as in Phil, FMQ) is the better way to go. and yes, i recognize that electricity is coming from some burning at the power plant, but this is infinitely more efficient than these big diesel engines.
#306 of 353 Re: CNG stations - does it bother you? [epnfrn]
Oct 09, 2007 (9:46 am)
That is interesting. Here in Utah, they have a regular car engine that is running on CNG to compress the gas. Not sure why a gas company would want to purchase Diesel to run their compressors.
#307 of 353 Re: CNG stations - does it bother you? [epnfrn]
Oct 09, 2007 (10:00 am)
I don't know if they use diesel engines here in AZ, but I do know that Trillium puts OIL into your system as I've had over $1300 in repairs now because of it, so even though there is a station less than 3 miles from me, I drive 28 miles once a week to get CLEAN fuel.
#308 of 353 Re: CNG stations - does it bother you? [epnfrn]
Oct 09, 2007 (6:47 pm)
Sounds like you found a real blooper!
Maybe a phone call or conversation with someone in charge at Trillium to ask why, and explain the environmental concerns. Then politely suggest they seriously need to get a clean diesel engine or convert to electricity.
Later on if nothing happens, contact the state or local DEQ agency, or CARB if they cover that area. I would think at minimum an air quality pollution (not to mention the noise) situation exists that should be investigated, etc. That application hardly qualifies as rural agricultural irrigation pumping needs...
#309 of 353 Re: CNG stations - does it bother you? [cnguser]
Oct 09, 2007 (9:10 pm)
murphy -- good ideas, and i will start with calling them. i am concerned that further action would result in them leaving entirely ... which of course would suck, as they are the closest to my home (20mi).
#310 of 353 Re: CNG stations - does it bother you? [epnfrn]
Oct 11, 2007 (7:55 am)
got a reply from Trillium, and they say the engine running the compressor in Berkeley is CNG-powered. i'm still amazed, given how loud and raucous it sounds ... other Berkeley users: does it sound like a diesel?? Murphy -- could a big CNG engine sound like a diesel? i'm happy if it is CNG