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Re: Ford Contour Natural Gas Transmission Problems [marty2611] by ecofuel
Sep 27, 2007 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: marty2611 (Sep 23, 2007 6:05 am)

How much do you want for your Contour?
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Re: Home fill unit? [patcng] by ecofuel
Sep 27, 2007 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: patcng (Aug 22, 2007 1:57 pm)

Can you email me your phone number? I would like to talk to you about extending the Fuelmaker hours.
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Re: FOR SALE: FMQ-36 by d_link
Oct 01, 2007 (5:46 pm)
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Please reply with information on your FuelMaker FMQ-36 (is it actually an FMQ-2-36?). How many hours do you have on the compressor? Do you have an indoor fill attachment or is it only for outdoor?
 
We have a Honda Civic GX and have owned it new since Dec. 1998. We are not impressed with Phill, especially since FuelMaker originally told us that it would cost $2,000 the first year and would drop to $1,000 within a year or two. We almost purchased a used FMQ-2-36 5 years ago, but held off waiting for Phill. That was a mistake, since Phill came out $700 higher than the used FMQ-2-36.
 
We live in California, near Sacramento, but have relatives in Queen Creek, so transportation would be an easier problem to solve.
 
Thanks for the information.
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Re: Ford Contour Natural Gas Transmission Problems [marty2611] by bank1avp
Oct 05, 2007 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: marty2611 (Sep 23, 2007 6:05 am)

Marty I hate to say this but your Contour is probably worth more in parts than in the whole. There are a lot of Contour owners out there with bad Compuvalves that would probably pay $1000 for it. The tank is worth a potential $500. The engine again to another CNG Contour owner $750 - $1500. You add these up and it's probably more than what you paid for the car. I don't carry Contours or 01 GX's for the precise problems you are experiencing. But if you want to replace the tranny any way I agree the price is high, you can get a low mile junk yard tranny with a warranty for about $750. Plus another $500 or so to inatall it. But I will warn you this will not be the last of your problems with this car, it's just the beginning. I am only speaking from experience I have sold over 30 Contours and what it cost me to fix them and make them right I ending up losing a lot of money. I carry pretty much every year make and model of CNG vehicles but you will never find either one of these cars anymore on my lot.
 
Murphy
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Re: Ford Contour Natural Gas Transmission Problems [bank1avp] by adea
Oct 05, 2007 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: bank1avp (Oct 05, 2007 8:12 am)

Marty...like I said before...I know a mechanic that will have one rebuilt (like new) for $750 plus about $100-150 labor to take out the old one and install the new one. If you pay over $1000 you are paying TOO much.
Garry
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CNG stations - does it bother you? by epnfrn
Oct 09, 2007 (9:38 am)
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something that has always bothered me about public CNG stations is their means for pressurizing the gas. part of the reason i chose the GX (as with many of us) is the clean nature of the car. but every CNG station that i've been to has a big, ugly diesel engine that is used to pressurize the gas. often it is hidden away, but at my local Berkeley Trillium it is right next to the pumps, and often scares the hell out of me as it fires up. i don't know if all stations have such an inefficient way of doing things, but at the Trillium, i can not even fill my tank 5 GGE w/out the diesel engine kicking on and running for an excess of 5 minutes (i sat and timed it ... damn scientists always have to be some empirical). so 5 minutes of big pollution (this isn't one of the new breed of clean diesels) for my CLEAN lifestyle.
 
is anyone else bothered by this?? the net pollution of this combination must be worse than just running gas or even diesel. clearly, an electric compressor (as in Phil, FMQ) is the better way to go. and yes, i recognize that electricity is coming from some burning at the power plant, but this is infinitely more efficient than these big diesel engines.
 
thoughts?
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Re: CNG stations - does it bother you? [epnfrn] by marty2611
Oct 09, 2007 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: epnfrn (Oct 09, 2007 9:38 am)

That is interesting. Here in Utah, they have a regular car engine that is running on CNG to compress the gas. Not sure why a gas company would want to purchase Diesel to run their compressors.
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Re: CNG stations - does it bother you? [epnfrn] by adea
Oct 09, 2007 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: epnfrn (Oct 09, 2007 9:38 am)

I don't know if they use diesel engines here in AZ, but I do know that Trillium puts OIL into your system as I've had over $1300 in repairs now because of it, so even though there is a station less than 3 miles from me, I drive 28 miles once a week to get CLEAN fuel.
Garry

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