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#84 of 669 Re: Battery life ....... No known failures ??? [larsb] by usbseawolf2000 Nov 03, 2004 (6:42 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Nov 02, 2004 8:49 am) "Toyota makes great cars, and has BILLIONS of miles driven on their cars. If their engineers say 150K is a good lifespan for the battery pack, WHO ARE WE to doubt their engineering expertise?"   Some people do. They would question why anyone would spent extra for green technology, while for them, spending more $$ for performance is perfectly acceptable. They don't care what comes out of the tail pipe if certain type of engines make great low end torque. They question how long the battery pack would last but not how long the oil supply would last. They would question environment impact of the battery pack recycling but not the whole car itself. They don't question spending $$ for bigger and more powerful car either. They don't care realiability of a car as long as the car is more than they are used to. It is sad but true.   Dennis
#85 of 669 Re: Battery life ....... No known failures ??? [usbseawolf2000] by railroadjames Nov 04, 2004 (6:45 am)
Replying to: usbseawolf2000 (Nov 03, 2004 6:30 pm) Once again I'd like clarification. Isn't the hybrid battery manufactured by PANASONIC and not SANYO for the PRIUS? Who makes Honda's battery? While we're at it. What about the FORD ESCAPE Hybrid? Also, isn't the mother company MITSUSHITA? (excuse the spelling) Culliganman Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 04, 2004 11:05 am) usbseawolf2000 (Nov 04, 2004 9:42 pm) usbseawolf2000 (Nov 04, 2004 9:39 pm) electrictroy (Nov 18, 2004 7:39 am)
#86 of 669 Re: Battery life ....... No known failures ??? [railroadjames] by gagrice Nov 04, 2004 (11:05 am)
Replying to: railroadjames (Nov 04, 2004 6:45 am) This is one of the lawsuits that was settled to allow the use of the NiMH technology in hybrids.   JUDGE ISSUES SCHEDULING ORDER IN OVONIC BATTERY/MATSUSHITA BATTERY LAWSUIT   http://www.ovonic.com/news_events/5_2_press_releases/20011101.htm Replies to this message: usbseawolf2000 (Nov 04, 2004 9:42 pm)
#87 of 669 Re: Battery life ....... No known failures ??? [railroadjames] by usbseawolf2000 Nov 04, 2004 (9:39 pm)
Replying to: railroadjames (Nov 04, 2004 6:45 am) "Once again I'd like clarification. Isn't the hybrid battery manufactured by PANASONIC and not SANYO for the PRIUS?"   Yes, you are correct. Refer to msg#81 for more info. You can visit below link for confirmation.   http://www.peve.panasonic.co.jp/e_catalog2.html   Dennis
#88 of 669 Re: Battery life ....... No known failures ??? [gagrice] by usbseawolf2000 Nov 04, 2004 (9:42 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 04, 2004 11:05 am) "This is one of the lawsuits that was settled to allow the use of the NiMH technology in hybrids."   Yup. Ovonic filed the lawsuit anyway. I believe Panasonic EV could of fought it and won but it would delay Prius and other HSD car production. It was the best interest for Toyota to settle it ASAP. Maybe that's how Ovonic took the advantage of the unexpected 04 Prius demand.   Dennis
#89 of 669 Re: Battery life ....... No known failures ??? [railroadjames] by stevedebi Nov 12, 2004 (12:11 pm)
Replying to: railroadjames (Nov 03, 2004 1:50 pm) "Lets get the facts right ..... The coverage IS 8 YEARS OR 100,000 MILES on the Hybrid Drivetrain."   I believe that Cailifornia mandated 10 years and 150,000 miles. 8/100K is the Toyota warranty. Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 12, 2004 2:00 pm) stevedebi (Nov 12, 2004 5:00 pm)
#90 of 669 Re: Battery life ....... No known failures ??? [stevedebi] by gagrice Nov 12, 2004 (2:00 pm)
Replying to: stevedebi (Nov 12, 2004 12:11 pm) I believe that California mandated 10 years and 150,000 miles. 8/100K is the Toyota warranty.</B.   That is the way I understand it. My question is if the car has a problem in CA at 125k miles. Will the State of CA force Toyota to fix it. The car is required to get AT-PZEV rating, that it maintains the same level of emissions for that 10 yr 150k miles. So if the battery or electric motor or ICE dies it will not maintain that emissions level. Replies to this message: stevedebi (Nov 12, 2004 5:00 pm)
#91 of 669 Re: Battery life ....... No known failures ??? [gagrice] by stevedebi Nov 12, 2004 (5:00 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 12, 2004 2:00 pm) "My question is if the car has a problem in CA at 125k miles. Will the State of CA force Toyota to fix it. "   Toyota will honor the warranty; it is part of the cost of doing business in California.

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