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Hybrid Vehicles The Great Hybrid Battery Debate
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Replying to: falconone (May 09, 2005 4:05 am) The Prius won't run very far on just the battery, but the issue here is: will it run without any traction battery? The answer is no, it won't - and it wasn't designed to run that way. My research indicates that the traction battery has to be at least 20% charged or the car won't even start, much less run. I started the "software trouble" forum not because of numerous failures, but because the Prius is far more complex in terms of computer controls than other cars. I don't suppose the failure rate is any higher than other new models; it is the type of failures that is of interest. |
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There is a user on another unmentionable forum who has a 2003 Civic Hybrid he bought used at 128,000 miles and his car still has the original hybrid battery. He has put 3,000 miles on the car, so it sits at 131,000 today. Hope anyone who is concerned about lifetime of the battery sees this and realizes that they are not going to die at 90,000 miles...... 
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Replying to: larsb (May 11, 2005 8:32 am) Toyota and Honda haven't designed their cars to only last as long as the warranties. Besides, most don't keep their cars for longer than 8 years /100K miles. In an article I just read in the San Diego Union Tribune: according to the CA DMV, in the state of California the average time a person has the same vehicle is 42 months (before trading or selling it). All if this questioning the battery is nonsense. The Hybrid technology is nothing new. Toyota produced the first generation Prius in 1997 (for sale in Japan), thus making the Hybrid technology nine years old. Since then they have launched the Hybrid Estima minivan and Crown sedan. Now here in the U.S. you can now purchase a Lexus RX400h, and starting next month a Toyota Highlander Hybrid. Not to mention next years launch of the Lexus GS Hybrid. Look out Ford, Chevy, and Dodge  . There are rumors of a redesigned bigger Tundra in Hybrid/Diesel in the works for a 07' model, just in time for the Diesel fuel to be refined Jan 1, 2006. Toyota is dedicated to the Hybrid technology, and with is reputation for reliability and the amount of time spent researching the Hybrid technology. I think you will see 2nd and 3rd owners with them on the road for many miles, just like the every other Toyota. You will hear people say as they do now "It just keeps running".
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A host pointed me here....w/out al l the gory details...I usually keep my car 7 years. It appears the batteries in a Prius could last this long. But what of the resale value of my car?. At least a Corolla would be worth a few $K......will the Prius have any monetary value or be ready to be recycled itself? I think the prices need to come down a bit before these suckers become fully accepted on the road...though the oil companies are adjusting their prices for their increased gas milage...or am I just pessimistic? Also I am a bit disapointed that gas is still involved in these cars of the future!
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Replying to: andrelaplume (May 18, 2005 6:52 am)
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Replying to: sinepman (May 18, 2005 7:21 am)
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Replying to: eaglei (May 22, 2005 4:08 pm)
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Replying to: falconone (May 22, 2005 4:16 pm) |
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Replying to: electrictroy (Nov 17, 2004 7:57 am) You said you researched it so I'm curious where you got that information. I've looked through the IEEE Explore for reviewed articles on this topic and I haven't found anything to substantiate it. I've seen a white paper (not a reviewed article) on Lithium Hydride (different technology I know but there doesn't seem to be a lot published where I'm looking) that claims that depth of discharge is not a factor for them - only the cumulative amount of charge/discharge with over-heating and over-charging carrying additional life penalties.
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Replying to: rx400_owner (May 23, 2005 5:23 pm) The best way to reduce the risk of reverse charging is to never let the battery drain down very far. Thus the programming in the computers of these cars to use only a narrow range of the total capacity of their batteries (e.g. 40-80 percent in the Prius). |
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