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Land Rover LR3, SUV
#861 of 4548 Re: Thanks for the information [gx or lr3] - LR# vs. MDX
Jan 15, 2005 (5:50 am)
At one point, we were between the LR3 and MDX when I thought I was going to buy in 2004 and was looking only at 6,000+ lb GVW vehicles.
Now our current SUV is acting up and we may be back in the market. However, I have just about completely ruled out the GX470 for various issues mentioned - lousy 3rd row being chief among them. The 2005 MDX, with a few added features over the 2004, seems a better "safe" choice among the Japanese brands. And, after 12,000 miles behind me with my 2004 TL, I have no complaints on Acura quality.
If I were you - and leasing - I think the LR# would be tops on my list. The horrendous deprectiation would not be a factor, nor would long term relaiblity after the warranty period. The LR3 may having you go to the dealership more during the warranty period than an Acura or Lexus, but that's more of a nuisance than an actual financial risk.
However, since we would be buying, I have to take issue with the claim made by someone above that the Land Rover would (only) depreciate slightly more than a Lexus (or Acura). I could buy a $70k+ 3-4 year old Range Rover for about the same I would have to pay for a similar vintage $40k MDX. That's not "slight" in my book. Based upon Range Rover's history, they have never had a model that wasn't at the very bottom of its category list ranked in terms of resale value.
Poor resale isn't a deal killer by itself. But combined with the risk of long term reliability, it does make for a bit of anxiety on how an owner might feel in 5 years when the warranty has expired and the resale value is diminimous.
#862 of 4548 Re: Thanks for the information [gx or lr3] - LR# vs. MDX [habitat1]
Jan 15, 2005 (7:08 am)
"Based upon Range Rover's history, they have never had a model that wasn't at the very bottom of its category list ranked in terms of resale value."
I don't know for sure, but I think that the Defender may be the exception to that rule.
#863 of 4548 Re: GX or LR [tincup47]
Jan 15, 2005 (7:31 am)
Good to hear that Ford helped the LR Parts system. Would you elaborate a bit on what the 97% fill rate means?
1. How do you count an order filled? i.e. Next day availability, two days, or within a week?
2. Does the 97% include all parts or just some of the parts? i.e. would the LR3 fuel tank and A pillar (to repair a collision) count?
3. What would be a typical wait if a part has to come from UK? e.g. How log to get an LR3 door?
#864 of 4548 Stalled on 3/4 of a tank
Jan 15, 2005 (8:21 am)
Last night as I exited a Thruway I made a sharp right and headed down a steep local street at around a 45 degree angle. At the very moment of the turn my LR3 stalled. I quickly restarted it and continued on. The tank was 3/4 full. In the two weeks I have owned it I have never let it get under a 1/4 of a tank. Now I'm wondering what would of happened if I had...I'll be calling my dealer in a few minutes to discuss.
On another note my dealer drove to my office on his way home last night to hand deliver the part of my door handle that I had lost in the car wash last weekend. Thought that was pretty good service.
Jan 15, 2005 (8:52 am)
Last night as I exited a Thruway I made a sharp right and headed down a steep local street at around a 45 degree angle
Sorry - you headed down a street that has a 45 degree incline? No street on earth is that steep I think., so I am misunderstanding I am sure. Can you explain?
#866 of 4548 Re: [michaelwillems]
Jan 15, 2005 (10:16 am)
OK, maybe I'm exaggerating but it was steep...
Jan 15, 2005 (10:33 am)
Even the steepest street in San Francisco (Filbert between Hyde and Leavenworth) barely makes 18o but it feels a lot steeper when you're attempting to negotiate it!
#868 of 4548 what's your angle?
by steve_ HOST
Jan 15, 2005 (10:35 am)
I'm more used to grades.
Baldwin Street in Dunedin, New Zealand is reputedly the steepest road in the world that is meant for auto traffic with a 36% grade. Lombard Street has a 14.3% grade and Filbert in San Fran comes in at 31.5%
I'll leave it to Tidester to explain the difference in slope, angle, grade, degree, etc.
Btw, the Dodge Power Wagon can almost manage a 90% angle. (link)
#870 of 4548 Re: what's your angle? [steve_]
Jan 15, 2005 (11:15 am)
Maybe with using the winch it will. :--)
By the way, I can't seem to find any pricing on the Power Wagon here in Edmunds (the link from the review page just goes to the basic 2wd 1500 Ram).