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#3637 of 4548 Re: Questions before buying an LR3 [tsv]
Jun 03, 2006 (6:26 pm)
1) Very, very doubtful. Also, E85 is not any cheaper in most markets currently and you get less MPG. Less foreign oil, but little cost/performance benefit. You might see new clean diesel LR3s here... maybe 2008 or 2009 here?
2) Land Rover vehicles are never at the top of reliability statistics, but LR3 (and RRS) are a brand new design. They're less than 2 years old and are all still under warranty.
#3638 of 4548 Re: Questions before buying an LR3 [tsv]
Jun 03, 2006 (7:52 pm)
1) even if they did the number of ethanol gas stations is minimal. MOre R&D $$ need to be pumped into getting alternative fuel into larger vehicles. it will happen.
2) If you are under warranty you should be in good shape. And as others will respond here the LR3 and RR Sport are a new platform. The jury is out but so far so good.
If the 2006 models have corrected the first year ills then the 2006 LR3 is a good one. I have one but am only 725 miles into it. My expectations are high! Finally - i compared it to others similar in class and price. The others were cars - this is a true utility vehicle and is much nicer bumper to bumper than the others.
#3639 of 4548 Tire Life on LR3
Jun 05, 2006 (8:00 am)
We had our maintenance completed on our 06 LR3 in a timely manner and recently while fueling up I noticed that the rear tires were worn completely through to core (less than 17,500 miles) while the front tires were fine. I noticed that the car runs with some noise in the rear end but I rarely drive the care (wife's). Any thoughts on the lifespan of the tires and have we seen serious alignment issues on the tires that will cause this problem because our dealership told me I should not expect but 20000 miles of life and alignement is never an issue.
#3640 of 4548 Re: Tire Life on LR3 [buschlr3]
Jun 05, 2006 (8:59 am)
I am curious as to the kind of driving you are doing? I am a new owner of an LR3 and trying to get educated on all of the possible issues.
Also do any of the LR people on here know if there is a TSB on the tire issue? It seems to repeat with many folks
#3641 of 4548 To potential buyers on the fence:
Jun 06, 2006 (5:44 am)
For all you potential buyers still wondering if the LR3 is a good choice:
My 06 SE V8 has only 1600 miles on it. I know there are potential issues that could go wrong, but so far, the only glitch I had was the outside air temperature sensor which was not showing the right ambient air temp. The dealer fixed this. No other issues and I am very fussy. There are no rattles or buzzes, and my radio sounds great to me.
My previous truck was a Mercedes ML which replaced a new 4Runner before that. The ML was far more refined, smoother, and quiet than the 4Runner. This LR3 puts the ML to shame - it is even quieter still and rides better, and has more power, and is smoother and more comfortable. The radio is 10 times better than the $1500 Bose upgrade in the ML. The interior is built better and it doesn't have the rattles and buzzes that the ML had since the day I bought it. Mercedes replaced my ML radio at least 4 times and attempted to fix rattles about every 6 months.
My wife loves her Lexus RX330 even more than her previous RX300 which got destroyed in a hail storm. Until I got the LR3 you could not have gotten the RX330 out of her grip. She now admits to me that she never liked the ML but it was my choice so she never said that. While riding in the LR3 she told me she liked it more than her RX330. Now I have to watch out because I don't really want to end up driving the RX330 as nice as it is.
I did not buy the LR3 for the 7 passenger seating - in fact I had ordered my LR3 to get it the way I wanted it without the 3rd row seat. I didn't buy it for the gas mileage either - I figured it wouldn't do as well as the ML. I got 19.4 MPG for the 4 year average that I owned the ML. So far, I have gotton 17 MPG on the first two tanks of the LR3 and 19 MPG on the last one which had mostly highway driving though I did go over Vail Pass and climbed up to the Eisenhower Tunnel at about 70 MPH to see how well the truck would run. It runs great and has plenty of power. I normally drive it pretty easy though.
We went 4 wheeling with it. Went through mud holes and over deep ruts and up some short steep stuff. Tipped it onto 3 wheels briefly. But it never slipped a bit and amazed us with its capabilities. Tried to drive thru some deep spring snow but it couldn't do it - I suspect it would have gone further with more aggressive tires. After it went into the snow and would go no further, I put it in snow mode and raised it up. It then went in another 10 feet or so and then stopped and would go no further. I easily just backed out.
Sorry for the long post. I just wanted to share my positive view. I really like this truck. I have no reservations about buying it.
#3642 of 4548 Re: Questions before buying an LR3 [tsv]
Jun 06, 2006 (5:56 am)
Ethanol has much less energy per unit volume then reqular gasoline so you are not going to get better gas mileage with it. In fact I would say that the only way ethanol will be a viable fuel alternative for this country is if we take the approach Brazil has. I don't see that happening because I don't think our political leaders here have the stones to do it.
The Diesel V8 recently launched in Europe should be here before the end of the decade. That at least has been the official word from Land Rover.
The only two Land Rovers I have ever sold that I would call problem vehicles, I am defining problem vehicle as a car that either takes more then two visits to fix the same problem or a vehicle that is in the shop more then three times for different problems within one months time, have been two very early build LR3s.
In both cases they were early build LR3s that were sold late in the model year. Basicly this means that they sat a lot and were not driven much during their first year of life. I think that combined with the fact that they were built within the first six months of production is the reason they had problems.
Both of those cars have had all of their issues corrected now and have had no problems in several months. I haven't even sold any problem Freelanders so far, knock on wood, and if any rover was going to have problems it would be a Freelander.
#3643 of 4548 Navigation DVD Update
Jun 06, 2006 (11:05 pm)
I own a 05 HSE and bought it around August of 05. I was wandering if there is a new navigation dvd update? Also does any one know if Range Rover has same navigation system/dvd as LR3 and if it will work in LR3?
#3644 of 4548 Re: Tire Life on LR3 [buschlr3]
Jun 06, 2006 (11:30 pm)
It sounds to me like the rear setup of your LR3 is way off. I had to replace all four tyres on my 05 HSE at 27,000 miles but in my case the front tyres were worn badly (to the core actually) and the rears were pretty much shot but at least looked like 'good' wear. I would check with your dealer about the rear tyres on your vehicle as this doesn't look like reasonable wear unless perhaps your pressures were all wrong maybe?
As regards the mileage, given that the LR3 weighs so much and can certainly hustle on the road pretty well, I wouldn't be worried about only getting say 20k out of a set of tyres with adequate safety margin. I do however expect the general wear & tear to be even (which it doesn't seem to be).
#3645 of 4548 LR3 keeps rollin' along ...
Jun 06, 2006 (11:52 pm)
I thought I'd post my positive experience with my '05 LR3 HSE.
As I've posted here before, my HSE has had most of the irritating rev 1.0 problems found on this list and the appropriate fixes under warranty. I've just come home from a 5k road trip across the south west including deserts, abandoned 'minimal maintenance' roads, 70 miles of punishing wash-board gravel road in Death Valley, 100+ degree baking every day, extended 90mph freeway driving, pulverizing 5mph dirt (rock!) track roads, etc, etc. In addition, the vehicle was loaded with probably at least 3-400lbs of gear in the rear, expedition rack, hi-lift & shovel up top, four pelican cases, camera gear, tripods, cases, computers etc, etc.
What went wrong or failed? Nothing. Personally I'm pretty amazed really as I think I just about bumped, rattled, shook, bump & thumped the LR3 to a degree that must have been similar to LR's test programme. I was sure that at least something would have rattled loose, fallen off or failed but nope, not even a warning light or hint of a flicker.
Now I may regret writing this tomorrow when I go to start the LR3 after a night of rest in it's home garage ...
I'd also like to point out that even when driving anything up to 600 miles a day at times I never felt any discomfort or aches & pains from the journey.
So, after 33000 miles, I can say that my LR3 HSE is working out great. Are there things that I'd change with the vehicle? Sure - after a week in the desert I'm going to have to find a retro-fit cooler box for my '05. I need more storage space around the centre console to hold loose items like cell phones, wallet, and other loose items that I don't necessarily want to put in the glove box compartments. Also, the cup holders need a reducing liner to hold standard sized beverage containers - and slightly larger 'wide' opening to handle a gatorade bottle. I have an AC power transformer added to the passenger footwell that I use for charging cameras, phones, driving a compressor etc. LR really should provide a similar option for the non-'drive it to pick-up the kids' or 'road trip to Starbuck's' crowd. One other suggestion - LR should think about a storage solution for the rear compartment privacy slide cover - if you load up the rear and need to remove this there really isn't an ideal place to stow it. (I used across the rear footwell but it wasn't ideal).
Anyway, I'm back home and even more impressed with this vehicle than ever!
#3646 of 4548 Re: LR3 keeps rollin' along ... [gwelland]
Jun 07, 2006 (5:13 am)
Just in case you do not know if you have a seven passenger vehicle or a vehicle equipped with the new defunct convenience package you can store the privacy cover in the space between the second and third rows when the second row is folded flat.
If you had people in the second row then of course this would not work but if you only had one passenger then it would be fine.