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#3550 of 4548 Re: Test drove V8 back to back with XC90 V8 [cmnott]
Apr 25, 2006 (3:59 pm)
Cmnott, I too compared the XC90 with the LR3.... both seemed equal during the comparison. What held me back on the Volvo was the short sunvisors. Once you move them to the side you have very little coverage. Also, the Navigation on the Volvo seemed "half-baked". The screen flips up and the controls are on the back of the steering wheel. The salesman said there was a remote to use if the passenger wanted to operate the Navigation. I could see me losing the remote.
The center console read-outs are hard to see in the sun in the Volvo, I have not noticed that problem with my LR3.
I have never owned a Volvo or Land Rover. My brother has a 2003 Discovery and has not had one lick of trouble in the "almost" 50,000 miles that he has owned it. So, I felt comfortable in the reliability. I think every brand can have a lemon so I was not worried about the Land Rover or Volvo. Also, the stretched S80 chassis for the Volvo XC90 had me concerned, why use a stretched car frame for a truck?
I am extremely happy with my LR3 HSE.... I'm driving it to Los Angeles this weekend so I plan to drive over all of those slow-moving Prius's in the HOV lane! LOL!
Happy Roving... Mark156
#3551 of 4548 Re: Test drove V8 back to back with XC90 V8 [mark156]
Apr 25, 2006 (4:13 pm)
The stretched S80 chassis always worries me too Mark. Back a few weeks ago I did some calculations comparing the chassis of the LR3 to that of the XC90. Basicly I took GVWR and Curb weight and showed the percentage differiental between the two. The XC90 had a much higher percentage of GVW being used as just base curb weight. That reduces your payload capacity a lot and it is probably not good for the chassis to be operating so close to its design limit all the time. I also showed that the XC90 being based on the much smaller chassis is really probably really pushing the limits of its design architecture.
You can also see this in the Lexus RX/Toyota Highlander crossovers. The pay load capacity is only about 900 lbs the last time I checked and it might have changed some so don't hold me to that exact number. It doesn't take much to get 900 lbs into a mid-size SUV. Two 200 lbs adults up front and three 100 lbs kids in the back and you better hope you aren't carrying more then a 200 lbs of luggage.
Apr 25, 2006 (9:46 pm)
British_Rover... I feel so confident in the LR3. Even though it is a large vehicle, it is very easy to manage (bumper sensors are my favorite).
I noticed, since the LR3 was new, that when I open a door or use the key fob to unlock the vehicle, the LR will make a "wushing" sound from the air suspension. I feel like I have a space craft or something! LOL! The suspension seems to be working just fine as it will raise and lower flawlessly.
3510 miles and Roving right along!
Apr 26, 2006 (5:49 am)
Yeah the car is going to "sleep." Basicly the suspension is autoleveling after you get out and the weight in the car changes.
I had one of my customers call me once asking why his car was "farting." Where he tends to park his car the ground is not level so when he gets out he car trys to auto level itself against the unlevel ground.
#3554 of 4548 Re: Off Road Tires [sawdusters]
Apr 26, 2006 (7:18 am)
I agree, if you plan to go off road then don't consider all the cross over vehicles.
As for off road tires, I did a lot of looking into that. That is a major reason I did not buy an HSE - the HSE has 19 inch tires and 19 inch off road tires are even harder to find than 18 inch ones for the SE. Please see my post number 2260 where I listed what I found for the 18 inch size.
I was planning to go with the Nittos as soon as I bought my SE but because some people are complaining about tire wear I decided to wait a little while to see if my SE has a tire wear problem. If it does it will be a lot easier to address with the dealer with the original tires than it would be with the Nittos.
I did take my SE over to Discount Tire and bought the road hazard warranty on the tires that it came with. At least now if I shred one, I'll get a free replacement. The fine print says it doesn't cover them off road, but I won't tell them I was off road. And I don't think they hold you to that anyway. When I bought the warranty, it included free balancing so I rebalance all the tires and removed the outer wheel weights and put stick on ones behind the spokes. I'll do the full size spare after the next tire rotation.
#3555 of 4548 update on ownership
Apr 26, 2006 (8:43 am)
HSE 7 going on to 10,000 miles. LR3 has been pretty good as i've experienced no major issues. Only during the coldest day of the year here when i tried to turn up the stereo volume i got the "low power mode" message and it hasn't happened since (volume was between 21 and 22). I guess i'm one of the lucky ones regarding the tank or tire wear as my original GY wranglers still appear to look new without any negative impact from the camber wear. New tread profile depth is about 7-8mm and i think i still have about 5-6mm. The one odd thing is i now hear the air compressor for about 30 seconds after the LR3 raises to normal suspension height if i lower it. Perhaps i never noticed before.
#3556 of 4548 Re: differential problems [tachawk]
Apr 28, 2006 (10:38 am)
As of last month, I have had my LR3 a year. I recently turned 15,000 miles. I am on my third differential (discussed previously). As of last week, I am also on my third gas tank (the first replaced because of a recall and the second replaced because of some strange metal fragments in the tank), and on my second fuel pump. The first fuel pump was destroyed internally, probably as a result of the metal in my tank. The damage showed up when my LR3 would not start. Luckily, I was in a location where this was not a big problem. As always, the dealer was good about the repair, but I keep thinking that it could have been a much more serious problem.
#3557 of 4548 Re: Test drove V8 back to back with XC90 V8 [british_rover]
Apr 28, 2006 (12:51 pm)
Not sure where you're getting your numbers, but when I did the math for the V8 on each, the XC90 was 75% of GVWR, LR3 was 76%. I think you're incorrect.
#3558 of 4548 Re: Test drove V8 back to back with XC90 V8 [serranot]
Apr 28, 2006 (6:16 pm)
I mispoke. I meant that the platoform that the XC90 is based on is being stressed since it is originaly from the much ligher S80 sedan. They are asking a lot of that platform to perform over such a wide range of weights.
May 01, 2006 (6:30 pm)
apparently the message center is an option in north america? My 06 lr3 V6 SE doesn't warn me of things like low windsheild wash - although suspension messages are displayed - dealer says that message center is not avail in north america - seems very weird. I've had suspension issues (resolved) a malfunctioning thermostat and driver seat discolouration (i have tan seats) any one else run into these? Otherwise I love it, great trailer hauler, i've done some nice offroading- i put 4 hapakalita studded tires on for winter and it was unbeliveably steady. now if lr could get their hands on the xc90 seats...........
also anyone try mounting a winch up front