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#2397 of 4548 Re: Just ordered an LR3 HSE [lr3_magic]
Jul 26, 2005 (5:34 pm)
Took my LR3 in today for the suspension fault when lowering. They called this afternoon and said it was caused by the vehicle being in transport mode. Since I took delivery last Wednesday, 7/20, I asked if they had not preped my vehicle properly when I took delivery. Didn't get an answer whether they forgot to take it out of transport mode or if it could default back into it. Service advisor said they did a re-boot of the system and everything was checking out ok. I specifically asked if they had tested the air suspension by raising and lowering the vehicle and she said they had and everything was normal. When I picked the LR3 up, the service advisor had already left. When I got in the vehicle to drive away, I lowered the vehicle to access level to test to make sure it was fixed and guess what -- same suspension fault message as when I brought it in this morning. I turned it off and back on and same problem. This dealership is a combined Land Rover/Jaguar dealer and the only Service Advisor was the Jaguar one. I asked for a LR tech, but they had all left. I went through the lowering process and showed the Jaguar advisor the message and problem. I left the vehicle and took the LR3 SE loaner back home.
Needless to say My first experience with Land Rover is not starting out on good footing. My salesman was not in at the time so no help from that side. Bottom line is I order an LR3 HSE back in Dec. '04 and wait seven months for delivery with little to no information as to when to expect the vehicle. I've had it 5 days and it will now be in the shop for it's second visit/day. Haven't gotten the Land Rover new buyer survey, but will be interesting how I decide to reply based on experience so far.
One other note. Stopped at my house with the loaner LR3 SE tonight and placed transmission in Park and tried to set the parking brake. Guess what doesn't work on the loaner. Got a red flashing parking brake sign and parking brake error message. Turned the car off and back on and still have problem with it. Will try later tonight to see if it will reset itself. Just or Wating to decide!
Jul 26, 2005 (10:24 pm)
I recently took my LR3 out to Colorado to look at Real-Estate and do some off roading. I live in Chicago, and ended up in Breckenridge for a night. That's a 1073 mile trip for those counting. The vehicle performed magnificently at about 90 the whole way there. From Breckenridge then to Taos New Mexico. 400 Miles. Then some more crusing around the state plus off roading. Roughly 3500 miles. Two Problems. I got a check engine light about 2700 miles in. Stopped in at Colo Springs and was very impressed by the service. They said it was due the the fan spinning too fast due to the thinner air (lack of wind resistance). People in higher elevations might want to ask about this if they are having their lights on. Also, the infamous suspension fault light. This was quickly resolved by a call to LR Colo Spgs, who said to pull over and re-start the vehicle. From then on, it was impecable. Quick Aside: Never in my life did I think a factory standard (HSE) could perform as phenomenally as it did off-road. From the rough n' rocky terrain of the mountains (Hill Decent Control was AMAZING) to the sandy trails of the great sand dunes, this vehicle beat out all of my expectations by a landslide. I just got back, and bought a Freelander. Unfortunately, I've had minor problems with that...
BOTTOM LINE: Other than for a few small issues that were quickly resolved, this vehicle is quite possibly the most amazing peice of equipment I have ever had the opportunity to become aquinted with.
#2399 of 4548 Re: Just ordered an LR3 HSE [lr3_magic]
Jul 27, 2005 (4:23 am)
Did anyone get a special class or instruction upon delivery explaining the suspension modes? We were given a quick hour class but it seemed to reveal that the sales people didn't really know much other than how to raise or lower the vehicle. I've read the manual and there's a wealth of little "easter eggs" the sales people don't tell you about. As often seems to be the case, the sellers don't seem to be too familiar with their product.
This is our first "Ford" rover also so hopefully nothing will be amiss..so far the moonroof has "failed" but that's either a fuse or a bad switch. Our appointment is on Friday to have it resolved. The truck has been returning decent mileage (for it's size) and handles better than one would expect.
I was crawling around the undercarriage and would someone explain to me how the fording depths can't affect the underside? There seems to be an awful lot of exposed wiring near the suspension air canisters. The harness are exposed also. I can only assume the engineers knew what they were doing but i don't see how with the possibility of moisture contact can these things be expected to operate reliably if at all
#2400 of 4548 Re: Just ordered an LR3 HSE [lr3_magic]
Jul 27, 2005 (1:57 pm)
Service advisor called and said the rear suspension height sensor was bad (don't remeber if it was the left or right side) and needed replacing. They are having one overnighted and I hope to get it back by tomorrow evening.
#2401 of 4548 Re: Just ordered an LR3 HSE [lr3_magic]
Jul 28, 2005 (4:11 am)
I'm so jealous..you got to go to CO and off-road the LR3. There are sooo many nice trails it's amazing. Also, near Red River NM is some good off-roading also.
I'm slowly getting more attached to my LR3 HSE after two months and 2600 miles - and no glitches yet. And I've yet to get less than 18.2 mpg. It's hard to find a better riding vehicle and especially one that's so awsome off-road.
Have fun all of you - and good luck.
#2402 of 4548 Re: Just ordered an LR3 HSE [lr3_magic]
Jul 28, 2005 (11:19 am)
Almost made it to 5K miles without a problem when my wife encountered a park brake fault (red light flashing, amber on). She claims it happened when she started the car not to far from home. When she got home I did a few restarts but the fault was still appearing. Not to happy at this point and being late and around 95 and humid I gave up, time for a drink. I was praying that when I started it in the A.M. all would be fine... Guess what, when I turned the ignition and the system booted NO fault appeared.. I put it into drive and spun around the block. The LR3 appeared to be fine.
Has anyone encountered a similar situation... I called the dealer and they said if it happens again to bring it in..
My wife and I love the LR3, as well as my 3 year old and 3 month old. No other complaints execept Land Rover should make the memory seat function standard.
#2403 of 4548 Re: Just ordered an LR3 HSE [koesler]
Jul 28, 2005 (2:17 pm)
18.2 mpg? I could only wish. How did you calculate this?
#2404 of 4548 Re: Just ordered an LR3 HSE [webbuzz]
Jul 28, 2005 (2:23 pm)
webbuzz, I get 18 or 19 MPG if I do long highway trips all the time. Calculated by hand... which isn't too much off from the silly computer average. Worse if I'm loaded up with cargo, of course.
LR3 should be very close to EPA estimates for average driving: 14 city/18 highway.
#2405 of 4548 Love the LR3
Jul 28, 2005 (9:17 pm)
Update: We've had our white SE since December and have nearly 10,000 miles. The truck continues to perform flawlessly. It is a joy to drive and is the most confident machine we've owned. Better than the Land Cruiser it replaced.
#2406 of 4548 "Practical Use Manual" for the LR3 Nav?
Jul 28, 2005 (9:50 pm)
Not even the offer of a big bribe would get my local LR service guys to turn off the 'Inop' feature of the Nav while driving, so I finally moved out of denial and started looking for alternatives for finding POIs and setting destinations using the VR system...the recommended method of operating the Nav on-the-fly. Anyway, the first thing I did was reorganize the VR Nav commands so that they were better arranged in 'like' groups...POI commands with POI stuff...General Nav functions with other General Nav functions, etc. All of this was done on an Excel spreadsheet, then put to practical use, then corrected and changed and redone until it makes pretty decent sense. (Some of you are thinking I have way too much time on my hands, but, in my defense, this is my work vehicle and it's important to me to have Nav all the time, so...this was a professional effort.)
Anyway, in the course of using the Nav with VR, I've found there are lots of limitations and lots of short cuts. None of these, however, are listed in the Navigation System Guide. That guide, rather, tells you how to operate each feature and not really any practical application of it. Some of these I've discovered myself, others I'm sure I don't know yet.
Does anyone know of a 'Practical Use Manual' for the LR3 Nav? If so, let me know. If not, I vote to have an additional forum here where we all can exchange practical knowledge of the use of our Nav systems and then write one ourselves.
BTW, if anyone wants a copy of excel spreadsheet with the commands...email me and I'll send you one.