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#223 of 4548 Discovery 3 (aka LR3)
Nov 21, 2004 (2:26 pm)
After a week with the Discovery 3 (in the UK they are still known as Discovery's) we are hugely impressed by this vehicle's abilities. We have owned every Land Rover Discovery to date and recently owned a new style Range Rover, and the Discovery 3 is light years ahead of every one of those. This car has superb road manners, pulls like a train, corners like a train and is about as heavy as a train. Everyone who we have taken for a drive has come away enthusing about the space, comfort, command position and style of the vehicle. Land Rover & Ford could not afford to get this one wrong, and they certainly have succedeed here. Stop worrying about reliability you lot, the DNA of this vehicle is pure 21st century, all the unreliability issues were in previous generation landrover vehicles with 1960'S engineering, with 1970's electronics put together with people born in the 1980's trying to powers 1990's accessories (that could all still get places that no other road going vehicle had any right to get to. Take my word for it - order one now and get ahead of the queues that will certainly be forming once people catch on to just how good this vehicle really is...Makes an X5 look like a shopping market trolley !
#224 of 4548 MotorWeek TV has a Road Test of the LR3.
Nov 21, 2004 (4:23 pm)
If you have Speed Channel, it's on this week.
If you miss the TV, transcript can also be found below:
0-60 tested to be 8.0 sec. as factory stated.
Handling didn't get high remarks. "With a maximum weight of almost 5,800 pounds, and a tall center of gravity, the LR3 is no sports car. Front end push is heavy, and there's plenty of body roll."
Comfort level is not quite at the level of the 'top dog' Range Rover but close.
I disagree with their 3rd row seats comment. I am 6' 1" and my head barely touches the roof when I sit in the 3rd row. That's better than many luxury SUVs in the segment. I would not want to sit in them for a long time though.
#225 of 4548 Re: Deposit on LR3 [ajn999]
Nov 21, 2004 (6:24 pm)
While I think you could sell your '03 RR all day for at least 49K, I think the dealer has got you on this one. He knows that if you do sell the RR yourself, you will owe sales tax on the LR3 for the whole amount. That will be roughly $2500-3500 depending on where you live , which will negate any savings. The only way around this would be to wait a year or so. The trade in value would fall by 8K or so AND the real world cost of an LR3 could also be down. At that time he wouldn't have you over the sales tax barrel.
#226 of 4548 Re: Just took delivery of amazing LR3 [wojo]
Nov 22, 2004 (12:45 am)
After a 400 mile round-trip drive, we are more convinced that we made the right decision to get the LR3. The highway ride & drive was amazing. We felt safe & secure was we drove at night in the rain and on the return trip home in ideal conditions we cruised along, gliding past all of the SUV-wannabees and other traffic with ease.
The commanding view and ultra-quiet cabin made the drive easy and relaxing. Even at 90+mph, the LR3 was smooth, quiet, and rock-steady. We make a 400 mile round-trip regularly to visit family. The LR3 makes this frequent trip much easier. Instead of driving 2 cars to accomodate the entire family, we saved gas by piloting the LR3 with everyone safely aboard. Loading and unloading our luggage, stroller, shopping bags, etc. was easy and convenient.
Of course the LR3 is a truck, so I do not expect it to drive like my BMW, but on the country roads, over hill & dale, across bridges, over railroad tracks, and on gravel roads the LR3 always went exactly where I pointed it, with minimum fuss. The LR3 provided the right stability and feedback on several s-curves & switchbacks. The BMW inspired transmission with 3 modes, including a manual mode, was delightful as it always chose the right gear. When using manual mode, the controls are intuitive and perfectly responsive.
I also love the brakes... easy to modulate to a smooth stop, unlike these ridiculous brake-by-wire systems on the E-class and new 5-series. Everything in the LR3 is where it should be and the ergonomics, console & controls are very intuitive. We love the familiarity of radio dials, HVAC knobs, and other simple buttons.
My wife, toddler and I have been planning a trip from Chicago to Houston to Louisiana back to Chicago. I finally agreed with my wife to take a 2,000 mile roadtrip (instead of flying), after driving the LR3 this weekend. The money we will save by not flying, will make up for the not-so-great gas mileage and the savings we might have incurred if we waited until the LR3 could be had below MSRP. Generally, I hate long roadtrips, but the LR3 is going to allow our little family to see more of America up close.
Go check out the LR3, you will not be disappointed.
#227 of 4548 My experience...so far...
Nov 22, 2004 (1:24 am)
Ok LR3 is treating me really well so far. Its been really ugly weather in my part of the country and I have felt so safe in the LR3. The only thing I have having the dealer fix is to have the wheel strightened. Its not a big deal but it bothers me...When I drive down the highway I have the wheel about 2 degrees to the left. If I try to hold it center the car will slowly drift to the right. I have never had a car that didn't do this to a certain extent. Anyone have this on their LR3 or have any suggjestions?
#228 of 4548 Re: My experience...so far... [nomad232]
Nov 22, 2004 (8:37 am)
Not that I wish but hope yours is the only one with a fixable glitch. (may be alignment?) Anyway, I went to a dealer on 20th and they had around 10 SE on the lot. I got "we could do something on the SE" line. Frankly, I was not impressed with the LR3. Couldn't test drive as I walked in impromptu. I was one of the 5-6 people looking at LR3 but I saw no excitement or heard any praise. I did see people looking at the sticker and didn't seem excited. They had not a single HSE. Got me a "book" (brochure). I was told the driver seat on SE was memory but the "book" states otherwise. I would like to get LR3 but for the price and reputation I'm staying on the sideline this year. I have to decide between a 2004 or 2005 GX470! I find the 2004 GX470 slightly underpowered. 2005 GX470 is a 270 hsp but then again it will be $5k more vs. 2004. Well I will give myself the November wait and get into one in early December. For all you LR3 fans wish you all the best.
#229 of 4548 3rd row seats/ heated windshield/ A plan pricing
Nov 22, 2004 (9:52 am)
I have been to my dealer several times checking out the LR3. I am 6' and found the 3rd row quite comfortable and very spacious. Its definitely an adult friendly row of seats.
With all the conversation concerning the heated windshield in past posts I thought I should examine it again as that is the kind of thing that would really bother me while driving.
What I found is that if your eyes focus on the windshield itself you can definitely see the lines in it. You would never do this while driving as you would loose the focus on the road ahead of you. When your focused on the road its impossible for me to see the lines. In my opinion its not an issue.
My dealer has plenty of SE's available for sale at A plan pricing and is currently looking for a HSE for me. He indicated it could be 4 or 5 months before they can find one for me and thats fine with me.
#230 of 4548 Re: 3rd row seats/ heated windshield/ A plan pricing [reichowjr]
Nov 22, 2004 (11:31 am)
Does your dealer also participate in X plan (partner) pricing for LR3? Or are they only doing A plan (employee)?
#231 of 4548 Re: progress report on the hse one week in..... [sontob]
Nov 22, 2004 (12:37 pm)
as per grommet's post, the aux jack is easily accessed with a minijack....next i need to find a setup that will allow me to mount the ipod in some way rather than having it knocking about the cabin.
you still have to plug it into the lighter to keep it charged.
occasionally there is some puzzling feedback or electronic noise that sneaks in when i have the ipod plugged in. anyone else notice this? it is not always a problem.
this is a step up, overall, from the cassette adapter, but i look forward to a day when there is a little cradle as oem that will accept the ipod and keep it charged.
the sound system, by the way, in my lr3 is outstanding.
and....did a mostly highway roadtrip this weekend and loved every minute of driving. averaged 17.5 mpg overall with 90% of time on freeway doing 80'ish.
also discovered an interesting safety feature...had to stop quickly when encountering backed up traffic on the freeway and emergency blinkers started automatically upon applying brakes hard.
and was surprised not to see even one other lr3 this weekend on sf bay area roads.
#232 of 4548 LR3 "8" way-power seats
Nov 22, 2004 (1:56 pm)
Have any new owners of the SE noticed in the broucher and official web site that the driver's seat is an "8"-way power seat and the passenger is "6"-way power seat. My new SE has only six settings. It is missing the tilt control which rocks the seat cushion back and forth. It would be designated by the two horizontal arrows on the left of the bottom button. Mine is blank and does not offer this feature. My salesguide agrees this is in writing and should be on the SE. It is on the HSE as well as memory seats.His manager has put a call into LRNA to find out why. My theory is that I along with others have a "European" passenger seat as my driver's seat. So far all of the SEs he has looked at are like this. Does anyone have an SE with the 8-way power seats for the driver.? Also, he stated my individual keys would remember my seat settings when set. I have told him that is not the case. I think it only applies to the memory seat in the HSE. He is looking into it. Does any one know what the Easy Entry setting is under computer settings?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.