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Pricing by tyresmoker
Oct 20, 2004 (3:46 am)
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Sort of agree with both sides..but...someone keeps mentioning the GX470. Try and get one below msrp in the northeast....better yet, try and find one. And it has been on the market for what, 18 months? Granted, it has a different appeal than LR has (it is WAY too soft for me...imho).
The big question will be whether or not there is a leasing incentive placed on the LR3. For the past few years, LR created a lot of showroom traffic with their $399 SE lease, a price point that will not be obtainable with the increased pricing on the new vehicle.
There is a LR dealer in my town...I have to admit, lately I have been feeling like a stalker driving through the place hoping to spot "the new one"!
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Re: Pricing [tyresmoker] by davidc1
Oct 20, 2004 (5:26 am)
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Replying to: tyresmoker (Oct 20, 2004 3:46 am)

Huh? I am NJ and they'll give you $3K off MSRP on GX as soon as you walk in. I heard folks getting $5K off at some aggressive dealers. I am waiting for the '05 GX with stronger engine, new gen. Nav, etc.. to compare with LR3. I think it will be a tough decision. So I'll probably end up deferring it to my wife.
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Re: Pricing [davidc1] by tyresmoker
Oct 20, 2004 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: davidc1 (Oct 20, 2004 5:26 am)

Yeah, Jersey is not so. Ct. Basically 2 medium size dealers service the entire county. Good gig if you can get it
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Re: Pricing [tyresmoker] by davidc1
Oct 20, 2004 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: tyresmoker (Oct 20, 2004 6:30 am)

You should cross the GW and checkout some dealers in Bergen county. The dealers on Route 17 in particular are very aggressive.
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LR3's Reliability and Resale by mnmatches
Oct 20, 2004 (12:56 pm)
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My wife and I are planning on getting a new vehicle in the next few months (currently own a 02 explorer). She especially loves the Land Rover Defender 90's but since they are not available here in the states she's settling for the LR3 instead. I am pretty concerned about their history with reliability and resale. Are there some members here that would be willing to post both pro's and con's for each issue?
 
We are also seriously considering the Volvo XC90 V8.
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I am also looking at getting one by ubrsf
Oct 20, 2004 (3:06 pm)
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I test drove one Last Friday.
 
Pros: it is beautiful inside and out, the ride is quiet, you get plenty of space, the handling is good.
Cons: Poor gas mileage, the front windshield has lots of thin lines running vertically to prevent frosting, I think this is rather annoying, the 300HP engine is a bit sluggish as compared to an X5, but then again the X5 4.4 is a bit lighter.
 
Conclusion: I am still deciding
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by grommet
Oct 20, 2004 (6:22 pm)
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I didn't notice thin lines running vertically in the windshield on the loaded SE I drove. I'll have to look more closely. Maybe it's due to the optional Cold Climate Package's heated windshield?
 
I wouldn't personally compare the X5 4.4 to the LR3, as X5 has almost no utility/space. The forthcoming Range Sport will be the X5 competitor.
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by ypshan
Oct 20, 2004 (7:28 pm)
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GX470 is surprising close to LR3.
 
With the KDSS suspension option, it is similarly capable off road. Feature by feature, it matches the LR3. It has a backup camera and tire pressure monitor which LR3 doesn't. Better acceleration with the 05 engine. Lexus quality. Costs less if LR3 is to be sold at MSRP and Lexus only increase the price moderately for 05.
 
LR3 is on top in the areas of:
- heated rear seats
- better 3rd row seats design (i.e. fold flat)
- tail gate instead of a rear door that swing sideways
 
Tough choices for me since my logical side says get the GX470 but my emotional side says LR3 since we have a lot of GX470's in our town. Well that may be a temporary advantage for LR3 since there should be more of them on the road a year or two from now....
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by grommet
Oct 20, 2004 (9:22 pm)
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Land Rover's Terrain Response is far more advanced, but I doubt that will matter to a huge portion of the SUV buying public.
 
The 3rd Row is not only a better design in the LR3... it can seat 2 decent sized adults instead of 2-3 kids. The additional cabin room and cargo space is a big deal to me.
 
Land Rover did a great job; a vehicle that is honestly competitive. If it was 5K cheaper, it would almost be a steal.
 
The '05 GX isn't out until late December, right? I didn't think the HP increase was even confirmed. I wonder if it'll still be 15/18 EPA MPG if it has "better acceleration."
 
I'm personally not a huge fan of the Lexus "look and feel" that everyone just adores... but I'm an odd bird.
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by ypshan
Oct 21, 2004 (9:25 pm)
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I am with you on the exterior of Lexus. I do think the Lexus interior feels better.
 
Terrain Response is no doubt more advanced. However, KDSS equipped GX could be similarly as capable when driven by experienced people.
 
If the Lexus has the same 4Runner engine that has been confirmed, it will have 270HP pushing 4740lb. LR3 would be 300HP pushing 5426-5796lb.
 
Lexus: 17.56 lb per HP
LR3: 18.09 - 19.32 lb per HP
 
Plus the Lexus engine has higher torque number, it appears that better acceleration is a reasonable guess if the new engine is there.
 
If LR3 was 5K cheaper, I wouldn't have to make a hard choice at all. It'd be my hands down winner.

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