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#184 of 4548 My LR3 and what I have to say ab out it...
by nomad232
Nov 17, 2004 (12:57 am)
Dear LR3 Forum readers,
I can't help but get the sense of lots of negativity and skepticism on this board. Understandably since you guys haven't gotten to hear from any real life owners. So here for what looks like one of the first times is a real life owner of a 2005 fully loaded LR3 SE.
Ok here is some quick info on my car:
Dealer purchased from: Land Rover San Antonio in Texas
Price: Just above $51,500.00
Base Line: Silver / Alpaca Land Rover LR3 SE
Packages:
Navigation
Third Row Seating
Lighting Package
Rear Air Control
Stuff I added:
Rubber Mats
Rear Cargo Mat
Off Road Driving Lights
Sill Plates
Door Panel Protectors
Rear DVD System
My Review so far...
I have had two Land Rovers in my life time. I had a 1992 Range Rover and a 1996 Discovery. The Range Rover was a good solid car and the Discovery was not to bad either except for some hard weeks spent in the dealership fixing faulty stuff. But I can attest that the LR3 is a completely different vehicle.
Believe me I was just as skeptical as some of you are about jumping into it. I needed an SUV that could handle some real off-roading thrown at it from the ranches but also be my daily driver in the city. No car could ever really do this like a Land Rover could. The LR3 is incredible...It drives down the highway at 100 mph like a sports sedan and doesn't wander around like the Discovery did. Off Road it crawls rocks with just as good balance as the discovery if not better. But the best part is its ride. Its so soft on passengers over harsh bumps. Its weight is immense but you really don't notice unless you drive through puddles at speed because you just can't get this thing to hydroplane. Anyway...the interior is very tight. No rattles what so ever. Some of you complain because it doesn't have any plush wood. To me the car seems very utilitarian. It has only useful things. Everything is over engineered. One things that just still blown me away is the rear door. The discovery had what I thought was a better design with the barn door. The split design is really nice. You can also really stand on the rear tail gate to gain access to the roof. I don't know what else to say because I have only had the car a week driven 300 miles and gone off roading once. The looks of the LR3 are really sharp in my opinion. So if you are worried about being an innovator purchaser on this car I can safely recommend that this car is worth the money. Ill answer any questions I can about the car that I didn't list here.
Regards,
Nomad
#185 of 4548 LR3 TEST DRIVE AND AWARDS
by peter4
Nov 17, 2004 (8:20 am)
Dear LR3 Forum readers,
I have recently had the chance to drive the Landrover Discovery3, Range Rover, and Defender all on the same day in some very muddy conditions in the UK. The Discovery was far superior off road. Our instructors who had never driven the Discovery before were impressed. One of them also said that the on-road ride was better than the Range Rover and I would agree with that.
The link below gives details of an award won in Popular Science Magazine for "leading car technology".
Here in the UK the Discovery has already been voted 4*4 of the year in a leading 4*4 magazine as well with a car magazine. It was also just voted Scotish 4*4 of the year as well.
I get mine in two weeks and cant wait!!
No discounts here either and there is already a 5 month waiting list. Get your orders in as this car will be popular in Europe.
Regards
Peter
http://www.wsmv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2554640
Nov 17, 2004 (9:16 am)
Dear LR3 Forum readers,
Two positive reviews by two new members - almost looks like guerilla marketing going on
From last summer's JD Power press, it sounds like Land Rover may deserve the accolades - at least all trends are upward.
Anyone else lurking who'd like to report on their new LR3?
Steve, Host
#188 of 4548 Re: Switch-A-ROO at a LR dealership??? [davidlr3]
by gw123
Nov 17, 2004 (9:50 am)
Was this dealership located in Redwood City?
#189 of 4548 nomad232
by ypshan
Nov 17, 2004 (3:56 pm)
Good post. Please keep us posted on your experience.
Did you pay MSRP?
Also how does the interior/exterior combination look? In general, the designers don't like to mix silver with yellowish interior. Do you feel the color combo you have look 'normal'?
#190 of 4548 Re: nomad232 [ypshan]
by nomad232
Nov 17, 2004 (5:18 pm)
As far as what I paid I just paid exactly MSRP. I wasn't going to nickle and dime the dealership. They noticed my fairness and went out of there way to try to get my a higher bid for my trade in.
The color combo is great in my opinion. I think its a very natural feel especially for the land rover. The leather in the SE is very rugged which I perfer above the softer leather of the HSE. I have dogs which job all over the seat. The leather doesn't show a single scratch but I assume the black might so thats why I didn't get it. The silver exterior is really sharp I think but there is a better reason why I got it. I needed a color that wouldn't show dirt as much. I didn't much care for the gold color and all the others were to dark. The silver hides scratches well and also looks cleaner when covered in dust compared to a darker color. If I were just driving in the city I would have gotten black or that beautiful dark silver.
So far the car has been a delight. I'm not one to care about this but the car turns heads. More importantly though there has been just terrential rains in San Antonio these past few days. The car just as all my land rovers gave an impressive sence of security. Like I said in my previous post it just will not hydroplane. But if you are about to drive throug any good size puddle get your finger ready on the wipers because most of the splash goes forward, up, and all over the windshield. I assume this is becasue there is no much fender in fron of the wheel. Another thing I am considering is mud flaps. The rear tires toss water and anything up on the rear glass. I just figure I could avoid hours cleaning the car if I had them. Oh and another thing...the voice command system really does something and I use it for everything. I mean being able to say "Navigation Petrol Station" or "CD 2 Track 5" is really really sweet!!! Just one big pointer: The more you raise your voice the less its going to understand you. I have a slight Argentinian accent I am trying to get rid of and I have trouble saying petrol the way it wants. I the only thing I am missing is a website forum of LR3 owners. I guess it will build once more people own the car.
Cheers,
Nomad
#191 of 4548 Re: Switch-A-ROO at a LR dealership??? [davidlr3]
by blckislandguy
Nov 17, 2004 (7:00 pm)
Sorry, I think everyone is missing it. The problem here IMHO is not that this could be a lemon that they are trying to dump. Sure it is taking too long to deliver it but the dealer probably is swamped with getting the new cars set up and there is some software that must be downloaded.
The problem is simple: rather than a new unit, he is taking delivery on a demo. Those first 400 miles are the most expensive ones and need to be reimbursed to DavidLR3.
I am always amused when I see proprietors of retail busineses (car dealers, steak houses, whatever) grab first "dibs" on something at the expense of their customer. In high end restaurants the owner often parks his car out front in the best spot or the car dealer takes a sharp rag top off the lot when he leaves to play golf and prevents a sale. This is nuts.
The owner of the dealership should have driven a Disco II until the LR3s were plentiful. Not put 400 miles on one and then try to palm it off as a new unit. Now he should pay up.
#192 of 4548 Re: Switch-A-ROO at a LR dealership??? [blckislandguy]
by ypshan
Nov 17, 2004 (10:24 pm)
Also, most engines have a break-in period during which one shouldn't rev over a rpm often much lower than the redline. Also one shouldn't put load on the engine until it's warm.
Now imagine what people do to a demo...
A typical 3-year-old used car would lose 30 cents per mile over the normal milage if it's traded in.
A dollar a mile for a brand new car that's not properly broken-in seems reasonable to ask.