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#1595 of 4548 Big Stalling problem
Feb 23, 2005 (1:39 pm)
On Jan 10th 2005, I bought a new LR3 SE from Land Rover Darien. They are owned by miller auto group of Greenwich CT. I made a big mistake by not checking these message boards first. Within the first 200 miles I had my first stalling problem....on a downhill coming to a stop light. The Dealership had me pick the car up two days later reassuring me it was fixed. Within 250 more miles the LR3 stalled again in the fast lane on 95 going 55 MPH during rush hour. Now I am afraid to drive it at all - much less let my family even get near the truck. Both Land Rover and the Dealership are not doing the right thing.(Thats a nother story) I at least thought Land Rover would stand behind their product and replace my LR3 with one that was safe and would not break down..but that does not seem to be the case. (Its very easy - If the car is broken than the Land Rover should take it back) I trusted them to sell me a car that worked. Im sure Wal-Mart would...! Well I still find it hard to believe that Motor Trend gave the LR3 Truck of the Year. At the end of the day I dont even want my money back...I just want a Truck that works and for my family to feel safe in it. Is anyone else having this problem?
#1596 of 4548 Re: Big Stalling problem [wilton1]
Feb 23, 2005 (1:45 pm)
It sounds like Land Rover needs to take some responsibility for this issue awfully quick.
#1597 of 4548 Re: full day test drive the solution to buyers anxiety? [johnmajor]
Feb 23, 2005 (3:24 pm)
John, that is the key question. The car under test drive has to be the one you are buying, only to be returned if one of more of these failures are encountered within the 24 hr test.
The dealer probably never would accept this, which they wouldn't if they felt that a number of vehicles would come back with 20 miles on the odo and dirt on the carpets.
Nope, buying an LR3 appears to be a real crap shoot. My conclusion is most of the cars are fine, but some 3-5% have some common design failure(s) crop up. I'll bet some sort of wiring reliability problem will be revealed as the common culprit for a bunch of these problems. What's worrisome is that if that's true, then for those who don't have any problems currently, perhaps the problems are lurking just beneath the surface and almost ready to pop to the surface???
#1598 of 4548 Re: Big Stalling problem [wilton1]
Feb 23, 2005 (4:12 pm)
"...the LR3 stalled again in the fast lane on 95 going 55 MPH during rush hour."
I think that's the first report of stalling at speed. How did you handle it? I assume you could shift to neutral and restart? Also, could you elaborate a bit more about LR Darien? That's one of the dealers we were considering using. By the way, what did they think was wrong the first time it stalled?
Feb 23, 2005 (4:52 pm)
I still haven't had any of these issues. Do I feel left out yet? Nope.
Some of the reported failures may have similar symtoms, but it's no guarantee they are all the same problem. Regretably, as the LR3 is a new vehicle... there is not a lot of "service history" the service technicians can use. If problems are not obvious/intermittent (no direct diagnostics failure, etc.), it can take time to diagnose and troubleshoot.
#1600 of 4548 Re: Comments... [grommet]
Feb 23, 2005 (5:41 pm)
grommet, if the stalling and suspension problems, to take two commonly reported bugs, are largely caused by different failure mechanisms, that's really bad news. That means lots of debug time per incident... I am hoping against hope that soon we'll hear about some magical set of fixes that take care of 90% of these problems. The day I hear that is the day I buy. Before then, wow, am I ever leary. I know you're happy, but I don't want to be one of the hapless lemon owners.
I like this vehicle so much that I would own one if I was sure mine wasn't a lemon currently, even though the threat was there it would turn into one.
#1601 of 4548 Reasonable cause for failure?
Feb 23, 2005 (5:43 pm)
Has anyone heard any reasonable explanation for this stalling or suspension failure issue???
#1602 of 4548 Wiring Harness supplier for LR
Feb 23, 2005 (5:49 pm)
Well just so everyone knows who the wiring harness or buss supplier is here you go!
LEONI Wiring Systems UK (LEONI) is part of one of the world’s largest manufacturers of wire, cable and wiring systems. With over 70 years experience in the design, manufacture and supply of automotive, electrical and electronic distribution systems, the company boasts an impressive client list, including Land Rover, MG Rover, Aston Martin, Bentley, JCB and Caterpillar.
Got to admit that MG Rover, Aston Martin, Bentley won't have many units out there to fail. And we are not all driving JCB's and Caterpillars, but a breakdown on those would not be pleasant for the dealer. Big boys toys!
For what it is worth, if you have a problem with stalling then make a big stink at the dealership and demand action, a loaner of comparable equipment, big safety problem & stay on it. "Squeaky wheel gets the oil"
#1603 of 4548 Yeah! Pick mine up Friday!!
Feb 23, 2005 (5:56 pm)
After three weeks of gawdawful waiting....
HSE7 Silver/Black, rear a/c, tow, cold pkg, heavy duty.
Pick up Friday... YIPPIE!
To heck with the stalling & suspension probs!!
#1604 of 4548 Re: Reliable? [tzo]
Feb 23, 2005 (6:53 pm)
I purchased my LR3 HSE and picked it up on Dec 23rd and I adore it. I read these forums, and yeah, there are a few trucks with a few issues, however, this is a VERY VERY VERY small sample out of the 10's of thousands of the LR3's they have sold. I almost bought Cayenne S, but opted for the LR3 for many reasons. One of the main reasons is that the Porsche service is getting bad reports from the boards, and there have been MANY recalls and technical service bulletins.
While I do not expect trouble, I know that the dealer will take care of me, and that FORD has a LOT at stake with this truck, and that if I am reasonable I will be taken care of.
you can see my truck on a frozen lake at a land rover club ice event.