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Land Rover LR3, SUV
Jan 31, 2005 (10:27 pm)
I truly, truly LOVE this truck! And I have to honestly say I was a TOUGH one to sell on "the new Land Rover truck."
Let's start with some history: I had a '98 Discovery, GREAT in the snow, wouldn't want to be in any other truck! Not so great in the city. I didn't feel it had enough power and zip, but it was my first "SUV" so what did I know? Then I went to the 2001 BMX X5 (V6) (also the first year model) and I have to say it was an awesome fast "little truck." I had not one major problem with the car and the upmost service from Nick Alexandar in Los Angeles.
But it was time for a bigger truck as the X5 proved to be nothing but a Mini Cooper for my big ole German Shepherd! Let alone, anticipating the arrival of a baby seat. After much persuasion from my husband, with knowledge of the new 300 HP engine, we decided to give the LR3 a test drive. Although we were both quite impressed, I wasn't SOLD after the 15 minute test drive, as I was still so happy with my X5. So my husband arranged for a 24 HR test drive which allowed me to keep the truck overnight and do everyday things. (Hornburg Sunset was great!) We also needed to make sure our dog's X-large kennel fit in the back. (It does!)
After zipping around LA streets and freeways, I was one happy little camper with a whole lot of horse power! Let me also state the only hesitation I had with the truck was how it handled in the city. Nothing to do with the reliability of Land Rover. LR South Bay serviced my '98 Disco just fine. Let alone, it only needed it's regular services. I had not one problem with the Disco, and LR South Bay always provided a loaner.
Now the only problem was finding a LR3 HSE7 before Dec. 31, 2004, to take advantage of the accelerated depreciation. I called every LR dealer in California! Not one LR3 HSE7 to be found! Did I have to settle for a fully loaded SE7? Luckily, LR Anaheim Hills had one who's depositer didn't need the fully loaded HSE7, sad for her, happy for me! LR Anaheim Hills (also a great dealer) is some 60 miles from me, but it didn't worry me, because again I never had an issues with the Disco, and I knew how well LR South Bay took care of me.
I always use the access mode after I park. So convenient in parking structures and for loading groceries.
Love being able to hook up my IPOD, no more having to run it thru FM stations!
During all the terrible rains in Los Angeles, I used the snow/gravel mode, you could tell how much more the tires grip to the wet roads. I felt so safe! Can't wait to take it skiing!
FYI, HSE owners: Check to make sure all the window control panels in the rear have the panel with the AUX plug-ins. All of mine were there expect the right rear passenger. Called dealer, will order one for me.
No stalls, no problems, minor or major! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE this smart new truck! But I do feel for those who are experiencing difficulties with such a great truck!
We'll keep our fingers crossed! Happy LR3ing!
#1168 of 4548 HSE 2500 mile update
Feb 01, 2005 (5:16 am)
Well, with the many troubled reports posted recently, I wanted to add my "good news report" to the mix.
Still no problems and the drive gets better and stronger every day. I use most of the features every day (I'm becoming a LR "POWER USER!"), including parking at access height, off-roading, voice commands, memory seats/mirrors, navigation system, DVD, cold box, tow package, driving modes, iPod integration, and 7-seat configurations, all without any problems (again, except for the DVD-through-the-speakers bug).
This is unquestionably the finest vehicle I have ever owned. I'm sorry that some of you are having a negative experience...
#1169 of 4548 LR3 DVD And Aux In
Feb 01, 2005 (5:32 am)
I have a LR3 HSE Fully Loaded On Order, and am
still waiting for it. (Ordered Oct 30, dealer
says it will be in late Feb)
I insisted on the Factory DVD Player, Does anyone
who has this know if the AUX port is still
I am not sure if the DVD Player will use that AUX
port, or is an AUX port is still available for
other things like Satalite, or iPod's.
#1170 of 4548 Re: LR3 DVD And Aux In [pfabozzi]
Feb 01, 2005 (5:42 am)
I have the factory DVD... and the audio auxiliary audio port is still available for things like an iPod. The DVD player also has auxiliary input jacks for connection of things like Playstations.
The current issue with the DVD is that it does not currently play through the speakers of the audio system, but only through the supplied wireless headsets (or through the wired headset jacks).
A few earlier posts attributed this to a change in the final model of the DVD and that a fix was coming...
#1171 of 4548 Re: HSE 2500 mile update [doctrix]
Feb 01, 2005 (6:24 am)
Mine has 6000 km on it (almost 4000 miles). I love it too.
The issues I have experienced include:
- A total suspension failure Sunday (not repeatable; dealer still has the truck and can see from all the error memories [a lot!] that it happened, but cannot repeat, so cannot fix)
- Steering wheel not quite straight - will be adjusted.
- "The thump" when accelerating briskly from having just stopped - but I can work around it by babying it and accellerating slowly.
- Groaning sound when I reverse and go over bumps in access mode (i.e. when reversing out of my garage)
- Heating sometimes blows cold air out of the centre when it should be blwoing warm air - when this happens I close the centre outlets.
- A rattle in or near the door somewhere when I go over rough terrain.
This is a very complex truck and none of these are unexpected,. They will no doubt all be sorted out.
Having read the manuals, I cannot help but think that this is more like an aircraft than a car. I assure you aircraft have issues like these all the time and need lots of work to keep them flying. That is not a problem, it's just what is needed. I am sure LR will sort out the issues, and provided they do, all will be OK.
The dealer and LR need to handle it well. LR marketing told me they had never heard of a car with suspension failure. (Yeah right). I am now driving a Saturn (groan), had to leave my credit card imprint, and had to argue to not have to pay $25 a day for taht "rental". All that is NOT good handling.
But no doubt they'll get it right eventually. The truck is great.
#1172 of 4548 Re: SE v HSE (etc) [trm2]
Feb 01, 2005 (7:49 am)
no- I only knew I wanted 3rd row and tonga green. I do not have nav either.
#1173 of 4548 Re: HSE 2500 mile update [michaelwillems]
Feb 01, 2005 (8:08 am)
...more about "not the right way to handle things":
Just heard from Budds service department (I called them, not the other way around):
I am told they called Land Rover USA yesterday and are still awaiting a call back. So it seems I have missed my car for a day for no reason, and we are no further than we were - and I am still driving a Saturn.
I am still happy about the car, but I must say, am less impressed by the dealer or by Land Rover USA/Land Rover Canada. I mean, a new car like this surely warrants at least a "We are so sorry" call from LR, or from the dealer's owner, and a rental Land Rover rather than Saturn? Not to speak about LR USA not calling back my dealer.
#1174 of 4548 Re: HSE 2500 mile update [michaelwillems]
Feb 01, 2005 (9:02 am)
I am still waiting to hear back on my suspension failure too. Land Rover called a towing service in my area and they said they would be out Monday morning and to leave the keys on the front seat. Then LR called me again and said the tow company was busy and wouldn't get it until early afternoon. Then by 6, I called my dealer and asked if they received it yet. They said no. The dealer said they called Roadside Assistance themselves (good for them) to ask where it was and Roadside Assistance said that the towing people said they talked to me and were going to meet me at 3:30 - which was a flat out lie, though it was by the tow company, not LR. The tow company finally arrived at 10 at night and the guy says "suspension failure? did you check the fuse? did you reset the air pressure in the suspension (or something to that effect) and why didn't you just drive it to sudbury yourself?" For the record, the dealer in Sudbury (my dealer, and the closest one) is 45 minutes away. You do NOT want to know the discomfort of driving the car in this state, let alone for 45 minutes. He then said "sucks that you paid so much money for this and it breaks down already". Needless to say, adding to the humiliation was the fact that the huge flatbed tow truck pulls into the cul-de-sac with flashing lights ablaze so that the neighbors can gossip about how we wasted our money.
OK, I am venting. Most of this is due to the tow company, not LR. Though the dealer did not call me this morning to tell me my truck had arrived over night.
Still waiting back on how much the dealer will pay me to take my truck off my hands. Any bets? I am guessing on a $55,000 car with 2000 miles I will lose $12500. I would be better off selling it outright to another person, but I am dying to know what LR will give me and to make my point that I am upset.
#1176 of 4548 Re: Has discounting has started? [roverdawg]
Feb 01, 2005 (10:12 am)
I had the same "it's on the truck" experience. The truck took a week to arrive for what should have been a one day drive. And every day it was "on the truck", "here today", etc.
In the end it did arrive though. I expect these mystery phantom trucks are a good way to handle impatient customers.