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Saab 9-3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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#91 of 451
May 9-3 Incentives? by bluewolf
May 14, 2005 (1:17 am)
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Considering a 9-3 Linear, probably automatic. What purchase incentives exist for May? I seem to remember seeing $3500 customer cash someplace, but is there also $1000 Hot Button cash for a total of $4500?
 
Whatever the incentives should I be able to get within a few hundred bucks of invoice minus incentives?
 
Also, I qualify for a GM supplier discount, don't know what this really means but the sales person I spoke with said it will reduce the price of the car before any incentives, and it takes care of the doc fee.
 
If I were to lease, are there any subvented lease deals with super low money factors? Thanks!
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Re: May 9-3 Incentives? [bluewolf] by kyfdx HOST
May 14, 2005 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: bluewolf (May 14, 2005 1:17 am)

If you are buying, the supplier price is approx. invoice + $75.. minus any incentives.. You can't do much better than that..
 
If you lease, the incentives are less, but the money factors are low... I'm not familiar with exactly what they are right now, but I always recommend leasing a Saab, instead of buying, because even with the big incentives, their re-sale value drops like a rock...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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2005 9-3 Arc Lease - What Say? by buy_low
May 15, 2005 (3:43 am)
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kyfdx and others, thanks for a great board, here -- very helpful!
 
Just got an 9-3 Arc offer of my own to ask advice on:
 
Auto, driver, climate, moonroof for invoice of $34,604.
Dealer incentives drive to lease selling price of $30,300
Two lease options:
 
(a) 24 months
      $1500 initiation (first payment included)
      $406/month
      money factor of .00030
      residual: 59%
    
(b) 36 months
      $1500 initiation (first payment included)
      $390/month
      money factor of .00049
      residual: 49%
 
Car could be purchased for $29,800, by the way (better share of incentives available).
 
First, are these decent numbers on a Saab lease? Either (a) or (b) stand out, strictly on the numbers? How do these stack up vs. purchasing at the $29.8? Thanks!
#94 of 451
Re: 2005 9-3 Arc Lease - What Say? [buy_low] by kyfdx HOST
May 15, 2005 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: buy_low (May 15, 2005 3:43 am)

1) I can't check their lease numbers, because you didn't give the MSRP.. Residuals are figured on MSRP
 
2) Do the lease payments include sales tax? Even if they don't, they both look like good deals... great deals if they include tax.
 
3) Do you like to switch cars a lot, or are you looking to lock in a good lease price, once you find one? I kind of like that 24 month lease.. dirt cheap for that length of term... but, if you come out of the lease in just two years, you have to try to find another great deal, which is not so easy... So, in that case, maybe the 3 year lease would be the way to go... From a financial standpoint, no over-riding reason to go with either one.. they are both good...
 
4) For reference, the purchase payment on $29,800 at 4.9% for 60 months is $561/mo. (+ tax?)... Considering Saab's reputation for re-sale value, I'd definitely go with the lease....
 
regards,
kyfdx
#95 of 451
Re: 2005 Saab 9-3 Linear Lease by mgz2400
May 15, 2005 (1:58 pm)
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I was quoted the following price on a 2005 Saab 9-3 Linear w/ automatic transmission, no other options were included. Lease was for 3 yr. 36000 miles.
 
MSRP: 29,420
Sales price: 28,473
Residual: 47%
Money Factor: .00054
Lease Assistance: 3,500
Money down: 1,502.29 (tax, lic. title)
Monthly payment: 350.39
 
The dealer stated this price includes my GM supplier discount.
#96 of 451
Re: 2005 Saab 9-3 Linear Lease [mgz2400] by kyfdx HOST
May 15, 2005 (8:36 pm)
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Replying to: mgz2400 (May 15, 2005 1:58 pm)

If the acquisition fee is rolled into your cap cost, then I get almost the same number...
 
So, as long as your upfront money doesn't include anything strange, like document fees or dealer prep... If it all goes to payment, security deposit, taxes, and title, registration, license... Then it looks like a good deal..
#97 of 451
Re: 2005 9-3 Arc Lease - What Say? [kyfdx] by buy_low
May 15, 2005 (9:21 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 15, 2005 8:57 am)

Sorry for omissions. Sales tax is included in all numbers I quoted earlier. And MSRP here in New England for the Arc with driver pkg, heated seats, automatic, power sunroof and metallic paint is $36,240, plus regional advertising fees of $350 and prep/handling of $150, bringing list, total total, to $36,740.
 
Actually got a follow-up quote today on the 36 month variant where bank fees of $695 are deducted from the "$1500 at inception" package and loaded back into the lease payments bringing those up from $390 to revised $411/month (taxes included). And that money factor of .00049 (yes, that's THREE zeroes), equating to about a 1.18% rate, courtesy of Saab Finance, is actually correct.
 
I kinda like these numbers. Anyone disagree?
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Re: 2005 Saab 9-3 Linear Lease [kyfdx] by mgz2400
May 15, 2005 (9:25 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 15, 2005 8:36 pm)

It looks like the acquisition fee is not rolled into the cap cost. My upfront money adds up like this:
 
Payment 350.39
Lic,doc.etc.. 203.20
Acq. fee 895.00
Acq. tax 53.70
 
Total 1502.29
 
With the acquisition fee + tax around 950 dollars, should I negotiate that amount from the deal to have it be a solid purchase.
#99 of 451
Re: 2005 Saab 9-3 Linear Lease [mgz2400] by kyfdx HOST
May 15, 2005 (9:34 pm)
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Replying to: mgz2400 (May 15, 2005 9:25 pm)

Since your upfront money has no tax ($53.70 is just the tax on the acq.fee), then I'd say that makes up the difference in the payment.... Without acq.fee or tax, I got a payment of about $330/mo... $20/mo. seems about right for sales tax..
 
$895 seems a little high for the acquisition fee, though.... I'm not familiar with Saab's base fee, but perhaps they are marking this up a couple hundred?
 
Other than that, good deal..
 
regards,
kyfdx
#100 of 451
Re: 2005 Saab 9-3 Linear Lease [kyfdx] by buy_low
May 16, 2005 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 15, 2005 9:34 pm)

kyfdx -- You are correct, sir. Saab Finance acquisition fees were quoted to me at *$695* yesterday (dealing with fleet manager).
 
So, mgz2400, looks like you may have room to play hard-ball on getting that fee reduced.
 
Related question to the group: is even $695 etched in stone as an acquisition fee in these deals? Seems like, given it's a captive finance company (not some arms-length relationship with an outside bank), there should be a bit of wiggle room in that fee. True? Anyone seen it dropped substantially?
 
And kyfdx, did my added numbers from last night's post make sense to you? Any thoughts? Thanks!

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