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453 messages, Last post on Aug 01, 2008 at 1:05 AM
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I just signed papers on a new (still at the Port) '05 Arc with manual transmission, heated seats, metallic paint and moonroof for 27,000 (buying, not leasing; not including tax and documentation fee). I can stil cancel the deal. Please let me know whether you think that this is a decent deal. The MSRP is 33,150, invoice is 30,811. Let me say that I don't envy the job of salesmen. I had two salesmen who were directly competing for my business. I qualified my negotiations with each of them by telling them that I felt some sort of obligation to the other (which I did), and that no matter what they put on paper, I was going to give the other guy an opportunity to beat it. Price started at just over 30. After two afternoons of negotiation, I had the price down to 27,500. I continued going back and forth with each of them and ended up at 27K. I liked both guys (granted, it's their job to be likeable) and in the end, opted for the lower price and my estimation that one of the dealers was likely to provide a higher quality of service than the other. That 'winning' dealer also provided a 10 yr extended power train warranty and free annual detailing for the term of my ownership of the car. In the end, I believed that I could have held out until Sunday (tomorrow, and the end of the April business month) for a price of $26,500 (my target price all along). Except that I believed that I had already eaten a substantial portion of the dealer's hold-back and started to feel uncomfortably greedy. My reasoning on the price was (i) 3500 in factory incentives (taking the price down to 28,800), (ii) the car is 8 months old (I think that the '05s came out in August of '04) and hence the price should reflect partial 8 month depreciation (only partial 8 months because the car has not actually been driven during the last 8 months) which further reduced my target price to 26K even but (iii) the dealer needs to make something (i.e. the dealer cannot give up all of his hold-back and some of the depreciation is captured by some of the 3500 incentive; price back up to 26,500). My worry is that I may be a sap and really should have held out. Further, that lots of people are buying '05 Arcs for substantially less. Please let me know.
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Replying to: vexatious (Apr 30, 2005 5:11 am) They didn't have $3500 of incentive money when they came out last August.. Either way, that theory means nothing to the dealer.. His cost is his cost.. Any "perceived" depreciation is the buyer's problem.. Invoice - incentive - holdback - double secret probation money = dealer cost Since you don't know how much the DSP money is, you'll just have to go by what you do know... You got a good deal..  regards, kyfdx
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Replying to: kyfdx (Apr 30, 2005 2:46 pm) |
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Hi folks, I have been quoted the following on a 9-3 linear with auto, sunroof, heated seats, and metallic paint: 24-month balloon (in NY) 15,000 miles/yr $3000 upfront (includes all costs, taxes) $259.90/month Actually, I got a few quotes but this is the lowest. I would appreciate any and all opinions. Thanks.
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Replying to: hetchie (Apr 30, 2005 8:34 pm) |
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Replying to: hetchie (Apr 30, 2005 8:34 pm) Can you just turn the car in at the end of two years and walk away? If so, do you have any disposition fees? If you do, you'd have to factor those into the monthly payment to get a true cost.. This will turn into a bad deal, if you buy the car out at the end of two years.. regards, kyfdx |
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2005 9-3 Arc 36 months 12,000 mileas a year Auto Transmission Heated Seats Moonroof Metalic Paint MSRP $34085 I was able to talk the dealer down to $429 a month with only $436 due at signing. Should I hold out or go for it? The sales manager actually said that I may be better off waiting till the end of the month. How's that for honesty? Anyway, let me know
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Replying to: lica13 (May 03, 2005 5:47 pm) regards, kyfdx
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 04, 2005 7:28 am) yes it was tax included. I don't think he can do any better now, he seemed like a really nice guy and I believe him. In fact, I went to Nissan today and got a kick a$$ deal on AWD Murano SL: Loaded with everything (leather, sun roof , xenon) and only navi and dvd missing for $420 a month for 36 months only fisrst month out of pocket all taxes included. It seems like alot more car for the buck. I did like the SAAB though  it would have been a way cooler car
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Anyone have information on Saab leases for May? Can't find any May info on Saab's or GM's web sites yet. I'm interested in obtaining 24, 36 & 48 month lease pricing for: 2005 9-3 Linear Convertible (New) Black Parchment standard (cloth) interior Options: Automatic + Heated seats MSRP: $39,670 Selling Price: $32,319 (before taxes, title fees, etc.) My location: Lake County, IL Have never leased before, but last month Saab appeared to advertise some subsidized lease specials, so I definitely want to consider the option. Thanks in advance for any assistance. |
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