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Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Saab 9-3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Replying to: zhangtao9703 (Apr 15, 2005 10:39 am) Go8 |
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A reporter is hoping to speak with anyone who recently discussed a trade-in at a Chevrolet, Buick, Pontiac, GMC, Saturn, Saab, Hummer, or Cadillac dealership. Please respond to jfallon edmunds.com by Tuesday, April 26, 2005 with your daytime contact info and any brief comments you care to share about your experience.
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Replying to: jlan1 (Apr 13, 2005 6:07 am) 24 month lease: $450/month or Lump sum pmt $10,055 Do that include registration fees and tax? If so, I can't imagine that. Thanks
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the only option I got is auto trans 2 year lease for 12000miles/year invoice $27387 bonus cash: $3000 negotiated selling price=invoice minus bonus cash=$24387 money factor: 0.00002 residual: $16398.90 monthly payment $353.67(tax included) I paid bank fee($695)+first month payment($353)+registration fee for 2 years ($176)+documentary fee($169) upfront total payments $9535.58 (tax and registration, etc. everything included) Please give any comments.
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Replying to: zhangtao9703 (Apr 21, 2005 1:35 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Apr 21, 2005 7:29 pm) I seems that it is not easy to sell Saab now.
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Replying to: zhangtao9703 (Apr 22, 2005 9:43 am) Because it isn't easy for the owner to sell that car later, either... Maybe that should be their latest advertising slogan: Saab.. a great car to rent! |
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Replying to: zhangtao9703 (Apr 21, 2005 1:21 pm) Good question. Yes on includes tax. I think yes on registration, but am (triple) checking today. |
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I just signed papers on a new (still at the Port) '05 Arc with manual transmission, heated seats, metallic paint and moonroof for 27,000 (buying, not leasing; not including tax and documentation fee). I can stil cancel the deal. Please let me know whether you think that this is a decent deal. The MSRP is 33,150, invoice is 30,811. Let me say that I don't envy the job of salesmen. I had two salesmen who were directly competing for my business. I qualified my negotiations with each of them by telling them that I felt some sort of obligation to the other (which I did), and that no matter what they put on paper, I was going to give the other guy an opportunity to beat it. Price started at just over 30. After two afternoons of negotiation, I had the price down to 27,500. I continued going back and forth with each of them and ended up at 27K. I liked both guys (granted, it's their job to be likeable) and in the end, opted for the lower price and my estimation that one of the dealers was likely to provide a higher quality of service than the other. That 'winning' dealer also provided a 10 yr extended power train warranty and free annual detailing for the term of my ownership of the car. In the end, I believed that I could have held out until Sunday (tomorrow, and the end of the April business month) for a price of $26,500 (my target price all along). Except that I believed that I had already eaten a substantial portion of the dealer's hold-back and started to feel uncomfortably greedy. My reasoning on the price was (i) 3500 in factory incentives (taking the price down to 28,800), (ii) the car is 8 months old (I think that the '05s came out in August of '04) and hence the price should reflect partial 8 month depreciation (only partial 8 months because the car has not actually been driven during the last 8 months) which further reduced my target price to 26K even but (iii) the dealer needs to make something (i.e. the dealer cannot give up all of his hold-back and some of the depreciation is captured by some of the 3500 incentive; price back up to 26,500). My worry is that I may be a sap and really should have held out. Further, that lots of people are buying '05 Arcs for substantially less. Please let me know.
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Replying to: vexatious (Apr 30, 2005 4:11 am) They didn't have $3500 of incentive money when they came out last August.. Either way, that theory means nothing to the dealer.. His cost is his cost.. Any "perceived" depreciation is the buyer's problem.. Invoice - incentive - holdback - double secret probation money = dealer cost Since you don't know how much the DSP money is, you'll just have to go by what you do know... You got a good deal..  regards, kyfdx
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