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Saab 9-3, Convertible, Sedan
#506 of 685 Re: 2007 Aero 20000? thoughts [jayrider]
by nebatuga
Feb 11, 2009 (7:20 pm)
This was one of the more interesting back and forth threads in a car forum site I've read in a long, long time. I understand where both of you are coming from. I understand why the multi-dealer site would be such a sensitive issue for someone who works at a local dealer. I could also see how the internet age has made it possible for one mega dealership to have such an impact on markets outside the area. I see the prices advertised, and I sure would use the number as a bargaining tool. As a buyer, I certainly feel the tension between wanting the best deal (on the one hand) and supporting folks who are trying to make a living (on the other). I've seen car salespeople play on this tension before, and it irked me-- this "we're going to lose money if we sell you this car." I actually had a saleperson tell me something about buying his newborn diapers or some such. The good faith negotiating should go both ways.
I don't know what to think. If I can get a 9-3 from the place in Chicago for $26K, and the more local dealership can't go lower than $28K, what should I do? $2k is a lot of money. Not too far different from the tension some people feel about shopping at Wal-Mart. I'm no fan of the rush to the lowest common denominator (dollars in your pocket) that seems to fuel "free market" capitalism, because "externalities" are so easily removed from the picture. I don't think I want a car distribution system that relies on a few mega-dealers, but they did find a way to sell saabs at cost (as loss leaders for other higher profit cars). Again, not sure what a responsible buyer is to do, but thanks for putting the matter out there, even if done with a little edge.
#507 of 685 Re: 2007 Aero 20000? thoughts [nebatuga]
by jayrider
Feb 12, 2009 (8:35 am)
Save 2k on the same car? Easy decision for me as long as they have the model equipped the way I want it. Feel guilty? Donate the 2k to a worthy charity. Win-win.
#508 of 685 2009 Saab 9-3 2.0T XWD Sport Sedan offer
by casdmg
Feb 12, 2009 (9:17 pm)
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#509 of 685 Re: 2009 Saab 9-3 2.0T XWD Sport Sedan offer [casdmg]
by jchan2
Feb 14, 2009 (7:51 pm)
You could probably go a little bit lower: I'd say into the $34 range, although I have found ads with several dealers listing "former GM Company Cars" (typically, Aero XWD models with Navigation) in the $35-$36 neighborhood, so you might want to give that a look...
#510 of 685 Not buying until bailout settled
by pescamaaan
Feb 19, 2009 (11:58 am)
i've had my eye on a 2008 sportcombi listed at 22,900 with 3k miles (former courtesy car)
until GM and the Swedes figure out what is going to happen with Saab i'm going to sit on the sidelines.
Feb 21, 2009 (1:51 pm)
Local Saab dealer has a brand new '08 turbo X on the showroom floor. MSRP is a touch over $43,000. Window sticker says $37,000. Does anyone have real world prices as to what these beasts should bring?
#512 of 685 Re: 2008 Turbo X [jerseyguy1]
by jchan2
Feb 22, 2009 (12:12 am)
Judging from the ads I've seen all over eBay and Cars.com, I'd say closer to the $35K mark is realistic, assuming the car hasn't been titled as a GM company car or suffered hail damage, which I've seen some examples of both.
Maybe not exactly at $35K, but definitely closer to $35K than $37.
If you could take it home between $35,500 and $36,000, I'd say it's a pretty good deal.
#513 of 685 Re: 2008 Turbo X [jchan2]
by kyfdx HOST
Feb 22, 2009 (12:23 pm)
Or.. .wait two years and buy it for $19,900?
Sorry... it's just stunning how cheap used Saabs are...
#514 of 685 Re: 2008 Turbo X [kyfdx]
by saablcp
Feb 27, 2009 (11:28 am)
The missing part's of that" wait two years save 50% equation" are:First off ,the most obvious...two year old "anything's" cost less than a brand new "anything" doh!.A Turbo-x is a pretty high level performing vehicle....I'd be more comfortable saving on a two year old 2.0T.Much less chance of getting an abused vehicle,especially if we're talking 6 speed Man.Tranny.Secondly,You don't have the pleasure of driving this particular car for the two years your'e bidng your time.waiting for the depreciation to kick in. I bought a 42" Hitachi Plasma Screen tv in Dec.of 2002,I could have waited 6 years and bought a bigger model for less than half the $5,895.00 I paid in '02....but I would'nt been enjoying my HD tv in the interim period!
#515 of 685 Re: 2008 Turbo X [saablcp]
by kyfdx HOST
Feb 27, 2009 (12:51 pm)
I know....
Started on the basement in May... thought I'd be getting a 46" LCD... By the time it was finished in December, I was able to get a better 52" model for less money...
But, when it comes to cars, having to have the latest and greatest model is a sure way to hurt your wallet...
I'm glad there are "early adopters", though... I like picking up where they leave off...