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Re: 2007 Aero 20000? thoughts [jayrider]
by saablcp
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Jan 21, 2009 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: jayrider (Jan 20, 2009 7:32 am)
Yes I do in fact sell Saabs for a living,hence my resentment toward a Multi-franchise dealer who primarily sell's Luxury vehicles three times the price of the average Saab.this dealer has chosen to sell his Saab inventory at what amounts to a zero profit transaction .I know what a Saab Aero convertible costs a dealer,I know what the dealer holdback and advertising reimbursements are and I know that the prices that this dealer sells Saabs at is unrealistic and would be financially ruinous for a true stand alone Saab dealer to even try and match .It totally disrupts and unbalances the market place.Every Saab dealer in the U.S. would be better served if they just surrendered their franchise back to GM/Saab cars USA as it is obvious they have no true interest in it as a profit center.They devalue the brand and do nothing to help promote a product many of us have a true regard for.
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Re: 2007 Aero 20000? thoughts [saablcp]
by jayrider
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Jan 21, 2009 (4:31 pm)
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Replying to: saablcp (Jan 21, 2009 8:03 am)
I would not figure one dealership would have that that much of an effect on the market outside of their home area but in response to your spirited reply, I'll never post a reference to you know who again. Best wishes -- every little bit helps.
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2006 aero auto - thoughts?
by pescamaaan
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Feb 07, 2009 (1:31 pm)
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i'm looking at a 2006 cpo 9-3 aero with 13k miles...
dealer has it listed at $18995 and says there's not much room as "they price competitively upfront"
i amthinking 17500 would be a deal...
any thoughts?
i'm having a hard time making a decision after seeing the big discounts on the 2008s though...
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Re: 2006 aero auto - thoughts? [pescamaaan]
by jchan2
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Feb 07, 2009 (9:35 pm)
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Replying to: pescamaaan (Feb 07, 2009 1:31 pm)
$17,500 is a fair price.
Offer $17,000 flat, then bump up to $17,500, and walk away at $17,750.
You could probably get into a new one for under $30K. Might be worth a look to try for an '08 or '09, which you could get with XWD if you wanted. (2009 V6 models come standard with XWD, though)
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Re: 2006 aero auto - thoughts? [jchan2]
by crs4_00
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Feb 09, 2009 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Feb 07, 2009 9:35 pm)
I paid $17,200 for a CPO 2006 Arc convertible three weeks ago. It does have a manual transmission and 21,500 miles.
Chris
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Re: 2007 Aero 20000? thoughts [jayrider]
by nebatuga
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Feb 11, 2009 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: jayrider (Jan 21, 2009 4:31 pm)
This was one of the more interesting back and forth threads in a car forum site I've read in a long, long time. I understand where both of you are coming from. I understand why the multi-dealer site would be such a sensitive issue for someone who works at a local dealer. I could also see how the internet age has made it possible for one mega dealership to have such an impact on markets outside the area. I see the prices advertised, and I sure would use the number as a bargaining tool. As a buyer, I certainly feel the tension between wanting the best deal (on the one hand) and supporting folks who are trying to make a living (on the other). I've seen car salespeople play on this tension before, and it irked me-- this "we're going to lose money if we sell you this car." I actually had a saleperson tell me something about buying his newborn diapers or some such. The good faith negotiating should go both ways.
I don't know what to think. If I can get a 9-3 from the place in Chicago for $26K, and the more local dealership can't go lower than $28K, what should I do? $2k is a lot of money. Not too far different from the tension some people feel about shopping at Wal-Mart. I'm no fan of the rush to the lowest common denominator (dollars in your pocket) that seems to fuel "free market" capitalism, because "externalities" are so easily removed from the picture. I don't think I want a car distribution system that relies on a few mega-dealers, but they did find a way to sell saabs at cost (as loss leaders for other higher profit cars). Again, not sure what a responsible buyer is to do, but thanks for putting the matter out there, even if done with a little edge.
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Re: 2007 Aero 20000? thoughts [nebatuga]
by jayrider
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Feb 12, 2009 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: nebatuga (Feb 11, 2009 6:20 pm)
Save 2k on the same car? Easy decision for me as long as they have the model equipped the way I want it. Feel guilty? Donate the 2k to a worthy charity. Win-win.
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2009 Saab 9-3 2.0T XWD Sport Sedan offer
by casdmg
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Feb 12, 2009 (8:17 pm)
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Premium
Navig
Auto
Dealer offered me 35857 before tax tags
thoughts?
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Re: 2009 Saab 9-3 2.0T XWD Sport Sedan offer [casdmg]
by jchan2
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Feb 14, 2009 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: casdmg (Feb 12, 2009 8:17 pm)
You could probably go a little bit lower: I'd say into the $34 range, although I have found ads with several dealers listing "former GM Company Cars" (typically, Aero XWD models with Navigation) in the $35-$36 neighborhood, so you might want to give that a look...
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Not buying until bailout settled
by pescamaaan
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Feb 19, 2009 (10:58 am)
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i've had my eye on a 2008 sportcombi listed at 22,900 with 3k miles (former courtesy car)
until GM and the Swedes figure out what is going to happen with Saab i'm going to sit on the sidelines.
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