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Saab 9-3, Convertible, Sedan
#431 of 685 Don't hold an MBA, earned it, plus a BA in Management and Nursing
Jun 08, 2008 (10:26 am)
First, readers who want a Saab at a good price go to luxury motors on the net, click on the Saab symbol, look at MSRP and their price at Downers Grove Saab in Chicago. I bought one last week, they are great, largest Saab dealer I ever saw.
I am 50 plus years of age, this is my fifth Saab and a so called Saab salesman attacks me and calls me a liar and that I made up a story. Please tell me if I am lying and making this up, maybe it was all a dream, but for some reason, there is an 2008 Saab Aero in my garage now for my wife an daughter to use at the price I posted. Now I would skip the below if your looking for information on prices paid and experience, this is the experience you will encounter at this Saab salesman's place of employment.
Now if you want to change the board to, "Saab Salesmen teach buyers how to post grammatically correct, let me indulge you.
“Perhaps you can explain how you can achieve that kind of price?
I sell Saabs for a living.... (Finish the sentence, multiple periods will cost you your "A" grade) here’s the true info (information, lets not abbreviate a word in a formal grammar correct setting, also please do not do this on your resume. You have a overuse of parenthesis, remove them and read the sentance without them, see if your sentence still is viable, does it have a noun and verb?
(Based on a dealer invoice for an"08 Aero with MSRP of $37,865) GM's (your manufacturer and Mr. Wright your CEO of General Motors and Saab's parent, would prefer when their corporate name is used, use the trademarked version, not small letters for once the largest company in the entire world.
price (GM's employee pricing, invoice minus 4%, minus all market advertising charges... Multiple periods are just not grammatically correct, your down to a "B" at best now.
the best possible price available to the consumer, if eligible) is $35,080.65.Dealer cash $2,500, (your not putting a space after a comma, now your down to a "C", once I could take, but you do it with both comma's and periods.
June purchase bonus cash $1,000.00,Saab owner loyalty $1,000.00. Net price before taxes and tags $30,580.85. You claim you took delivery at a price $170.00 below dealers net/net cost (net/net being invoice price minus market advertising charges, dealer holdback, and all available dealer and customer incentives)????
Don’t use four questions marks in a row, now your down to a "D", you have a 1.0 GPA now.
I claimed that I purchased the car for the stated price in my post, then I put the dealers name, the link to the site, but you will not do the work, you added all the math. Then you called me a liar and this is only a "story".
Consumer's do not care about about these things, they want the price, pay it and go on with life. The price paid out the door is what the consumer wants Mr. Saab sales for a living.
Why would a dealer sell any car at an absolute total ZERO (does zero need to be all caps when you are the one worried about a proper linguistic correct posting?)
Got to flunk you here Mr. I do this for a living, you get a F.
In light of the fact that it was in stock I assume he paid some bank floor plan interest on the car! (Two spaces after ending a sentence junior, we can't go lower on the grading scale).
At your claimed purchase price the dealer would have been better off never taking the car into inventory! If you are in fact eligible to buy the car under the GM Employee purchase program you do anyone reading your post a disservice by not stating that fact ... (again, now that you turned a topic around price and buying experience into an attack on my degree and posting, gosh, I hope you text message also in all perfect grammar also), again what would be the purpose of me lying and making up a “story” ?
I am just letting others know about a good price and buying experience, you turned it in to a personal attack and even had the brains to say you’re a Saab salesman, nice image you give yourself and the company and your dealer.
If you are not, then your story is just that... a story! (Again, it’s the truth, now my family and I are going to enjoy a movie for we saved a ton of money on our new Saab, or fifth, probably more than you will sell with the way you attach others).
I suggest you read the following Saab 9-5 by Anders Tunberg, this will give you insight into your product. Then read Mr. Saab by Page One publishing, on the tale of Erik Carlsson "on the roof", this will also help you learn about your product. Then read Iaccocca An Autobiography, it will show you that safety does not sell cars (Chrysler was the first to put seat belts in all cars).
Be honest, tell others the 2008 9-3 fell in safety rankings, it did not obtain as high of scores as previous years of 2007 and 2006.
Now I have had an 86 900 spg, a 92 9000 Griffen (one of only 350 made at 42KMSRP, this one put off retirement by 3 years with all the repairs). Then a 99 9-5 SE, with a 6 cyl, perfect car, not one problem. Then a 2002 Saab Aero wagon, recently sold on Ebay last week, one can email me through there if they can not find this deal above still. Now a 08 9-3 Aero (we like the seats), I bought five, how many have you bought? These are only one car in three we have in the family, but enough, if you have not got the message, you never will and I have given you too much of my time as probably most of your customers do. Try to improve, not criticize others, when you have never met them. Try not to call them a liar, and that they made up a story, you just lower your credibility and the organization your represent in sales. Take it from someone who has sold for 29 years and is getting ready to retire, what your doing is only hurting you and your product.
Jun 09, 2008 (5:34 am)
im crushed.........!!!!!!!! lol
#433 of 685 we need to be protective of the brand
Jun 09, 2008 (9:02 am)
I concede the fact that this Saab dealer in question is in fact advertising '08 Saabs at prices which defy economic logic.What I mean by that I attempted to explain by documenting the costs to a dealer on a representative car thereby showing that the advertised price by the dealer was virtually,and on some cars..literally,an absolute zero profit proposition for the dealer.In SMU's case they weren't even creating a potential service customer.The point I would like to make is that this dealership is doing tremendous harm to the Saab brand by selling below any price which would be viable for the stand alone Saab franchise to compete with.It destabilizes the market .Yes,it's a BIG win for the consumer!If customers like SMU really have a sense of brand loyalty,then they should consider patronizing the dealers who are commited to trying to keep Saab viable in the North American marketplace.My apologies for making him the focus of a frustration more reasonably directed at Saab of Downers Mills.Quite frankly,I strongly suspect that they could care less if Saab
is still selling cars in the U.S. five years from now,something which I care greatly about.
Jun 09, 2008 (1:46 pm)
To be fair, the dealer selling at that price hurts only other dealers, not saab. Saab sells more cars, and more parts in the future, etc...
Those are some amazing prices. A 9-3 for 24K? I mean, wow. An accord EX-L is about the same on carsdirect.
#435 of 685 Re: we need to be protective of the brand [saablcp]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jun 09, 2008 (5:37 pm)
If you check out the website, you can see that they also have over 40 units of '07 Saab 9-3s...
My guess is that there was a major incentive from GM to take all of that old inventory....
Either way... Chicago is a cut-throat high-line car market.. I bought an almost new BMW there a few years back.. Well worth the $109 plane ticket and using up a Saturday to save $1500...
#437 of 685 I Will Agree..
Jun 10, 2008 (2:11 pm)
that Chicagoland is a cutthroat car market- both high line and regular line; I remember the '07 Accord clearance last year, several Chicagoland Honda dealers had Accords at prices at least $3000 below what my local Nashville dealers were quoting me.
So many dealers, so many cars, and yet so few buyers.. Hmm.. Shall we apply a bit of supply and demand?
Downers Grove still has all those '07 Saabs? If only I hadn't already bought the Altima...
Jul 06, 2008 (8:20 pm)
Don't people do some research before they even think about Saab?
1. A 3 yr-old 93 convertible with MSRP $40k+ is worth now $15k in the market.
2. It's a US car with a not-even-luxuy-closed sweden logo and unreliable junk.
The comparison is clear, a 2006 bmw 325 is still worth $25k plus, a 2006 saab 93 sedan is around $15k. Maybe there is no comparison at all, a truly luxury and sporty brand versus a junk.
If you have the budget and look for a luxuy and sporty car, bmw or MB is your choice. Or just buy a GM or honda. Believe it or not, a 3 yr-old civic worths more than your Saab.
It's funny that GM put a Saab logo on chevy trailblazer and expect people to pay extra $10k. A '05 trailblazer is selling for $10 or 11 grants, how much do you think a Saab 9-7 could worth, 500 bucks more?
#440 of 685 Re: buying a Saab?? [joeslacker]
Jul 07, 2008 (8:34 am)
To be fair, almost no one pays anywhere near MSRP on a new Saab, while almost everyone pays very close to sticker on a new BMW.