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Replying to: saablcp (Jun 07, 2008 6:49 am) Downers Grove Saab, view Luxury motors dot , then go to Downers grove Saab. I said the same thing, called and asked is this a mistake. You want a copy of the paperwork? I don't claim it, I did it. I am eligible for the GM supplier discount, but they would not accept it, for the price was below. Why won't you take the truth? You need a invoice copy sent to you? You needs my email? I gave you the name of the dealer, the listings on line, how the MSRP is listed, then their price, no crap with all the numbers, heres the price, write a check, what else do you want? Its a good deal, I shared it, don't call me a liar. As I said, there was 43 just 9-3's on the lot? How many you got? My dealer in west county in St. Louis had about 10, but would even walk with me or look up the inventory on their files to see which one had what options, told me to go look myself (in the rain) while he sat in the break room and had lunch. Offered me 9K and 1k Saab Loyalty, after goig in there since 1986, that is not going to work anymore. The old days of going to the back room are over son. Sometimes you salesmen don't know all, you don't know all the incentives a very large dealer gets? I have sold (with an MBA for 20 years and still learn). Don't accuse the buyer, don't blast another dealer, it makes you look bad. I got screwed on Saabs and dealers by paying several grand more in the past, those days are over. Will give you a posting from the site on the next post. If you can't buy the car there at that price and I listed everything on the post above, then reading the post is your problem. The figures are right from my invoice. 5K on MC to hold, then another 5K for max on Mastercard for a total of 10K for airline points. Then the rest by check. 6 miles, brand new, you almost got to feel guilty selling all those Saabs at those prices your did, don't you? Luxury Motors is the largest buyer in the nation, volume works. Why would I want to make this crap up and post it, I don't have time for that. All the truth, nothing but the truth, I swear to GOD. I made an error, listed the salesmans name, and the website, cant you visit it and then tell us what you see?? Call the dealer and tell us what you hear? Or keep giving people the shaft. Heck, the offered me coffee, a coke, let me use and office for a webcast meeting, treated me like gold. My dealer (front end) treats me like crap, service is good, but its a new salesperson everymonth that does not know a damn thing about how the car is engineered or why. Next post will give you the clues since you didn't get it from the last post. Do a carfax on my VIN and see when it was sold? VIN YS3F H41U 8113 1763. Then look on Ebay, 2002 9-5 Aero's sold in the last week, and see my 9-5 sold with 38K for 13 grand even. Contact the seller there (ME) if you still have doubts, notice where the owner lives (same town). |
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Go to Luxury Motors dot something (not web address) Hit the Saab Logo Look at the cars: Here is a cut and paste: 2008 SAAB 9-3 9-3 AERO Exterior: Silver Interior: BLACK-PARCHMENT Original MSRP: $39,305 Luxury Sale Price: $32,495 Now, since you sell for a living, EXPLAIN? |
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008 SAAB 9-3 Convertible 9-3 AERO CAB Exterior: White Interior: BLACK-PARCHMENT Original MSRP: $51,325 Luxury Sale Price: $41,995 Stock #: 1300 Mileage: 8 miles SAAB Downers Grove Luxury Motors Thats 20% quick round math, 20%, no negotiation needed, can you beat it Saabicp? Or because you can't you revert to the name calling of the consumer? Above, highest MSRP for any Saab they have in stock, this is a cut and paste anyone that can find this site can find this car? Go to Luxury.something, then click on the Saab logo. It's like buying a Saturn, but easier, the price is right on the Internet, so no running to the back room to talk to mystery man,or woman making me waste half my day. Playing all the numbers games and percents, like your post. Thats the TRUTH my friend, NOW lets see if you can be a good salesman and admit it?  Sometimes somebody changes the was business is done (Apple, Starbucks, McDonalds, etc.) and many can't understand, you call me a liar, say it is just a "story" (why would I want to do that)? It's because you don't take the time to do your homework and just verify the price, the dealer, etc. Look at the brands this Luxury dealership carries, Saab is the lowest end car and they are the only Saab dealership connected with Luxurydot, add it all up, then you can understand with margins on the other lines how it can be done and make money. I don't know, I see the price, the car is new, its a Saab dealership, why not buy it with 50K/4year warranty? Tell me? |
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The funniest thing in your inarticulate,grammatically comical rant is your claim of holding an MBA! I simply stated the facts of what the costs are on a car such as the one you posted,minus all real and potential profit and any and all dealer and consumer rebates.That price was higher than you claimed to have paid.Your response is a tirade against dealers selling $40k products at a reasonable profit.Did you not attend the classes dealing with the structure of a free market economy?Do you feel the same way about the merchants who sell you the other goods you use in your day to day life? The only logical thread I can glean from your post is this dealer apparently makes large enough margins on their other car lines to be essentially a clearing house zero profit source for Saab customers.What would be the point?
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Replying to: saablcp (Jun 08, 2008 7:57 am) As a buyer, I don't really care why or how.. just where.. regards, kyfdx
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Replying to: saablcp (Jun 08, 2008 7:57 am) I am 50 plus years of age, this is my fifth Saab and a so called Saab salesman attacks me and calls me a liar and that I made up a story. Please tell me if I am lying and making this up, maybe it was all a dream, but for some reason, there is an 2008 Saab Aero in my garage now for my wife an daughter to use at the price I posted. Now I would skip the below if your looking for information on prices paid and experience, this is the experience you will encounter at this Saab salesman's place of employment. ____________________________________________________________ Now if you want to change the board to, "Saab Salesmen teach buyers how to post grammatically correct, let me indulge you. “Perhaps you can explain how you can achieve that kind of price? I sell Saabs for a living.... (Finish the sentence, multiple periods will cost you your "A" grade) here’s the true info (information, lets not abbreviate a word in a formal grammar correct setting, also please do not do this on your resume. You have a overuse of parenthesis, remove them and read the sentance without them, see if your sentence still is viable, does it have a noun and verb? (Based on a dealer invoice for an"08 Aero with MSRP of $37,865) GM's (your manufacturer and Mr. Wright your CEO of General Motors and Saab's parent, would prefer when their corporate name is used, use the trademarked version, not small letters for once the largest company in the entire world. price (GM's employee pricing, invoice minus 4%, minus all market advertising charges... Multiple periods are just not grammatically correct, your down to a "B" at best now. the best possible price available to the consumer, if eligible) is $35,080.65.Dealer cash $2,500, (your not putting a space after a comma, now your down to a "C", once I could take, but you do it with both comma's and periods. June purchase bonus cash $1,000.00,Saab owner loyalty $1,000.00. Net price before taxes and tags $30,580.85. You claim you took delivery at a price $170.00 below dealers net/net cost (net/net being invoice price minus market advertising charges, dealer holdback, and all available dealer and customer incentives)???? Don’t use four questions marks in a row, now your down to a "D", you have a 1.0 GPA now. I claimed that I purchased the car for the stated price in my post, then I put the dealers name, the link to the site, but you will not do the work, you added all the math. Then you called me a liar and this is only a "story". Consumer's do not care about about these things, they want the price, pay it and go on with life. The price paid out the door is what the consumer wants Mr. Saab sales for a living. Why would a dealer sell any car at an absolute total ZERO (does zero need to be all caps when you are the one worried about a proper linguistic correct posting?) Got to flunk you here Mr. I do this for a living, you get a F. In light of the fact that it was in stock I assume he paid some bank floor plan interest on the car! (Two spaces after ending a sentence junior, we can't go lower on the grading scale). At your claimed purchase price the dealer would have been better off never taking the car into inventory! If you are in fact eligible to buy the car under the GM Employee purchase program you do anyone reading your post a disservice by not stating that fact ... (again, now that you turned a topic around price and buying experience into an attack on my degree and posting, gosh, I hope you text message also in all perfect grammar also), again what would be the purpose of me lying and making up a “story” ? I am just letting others know about a good price and buying experience, you turned it in to a personal attack and even had the brains to say you’re a Saab salesman, nice image you give yourself and the company and your dealer. If you are not, then your story is just that... a story! (Again, it’s the truth, now my family and I are going to enjoy a movie for we saved a ton of money on our new Saab, or fifth, probably more than you will sell with the way you attach others). I suggest you read the following Saab 9-5 by Anders Tunberg, this will give you insight into your product. Then read Mr. Saab by Page One publishing, on the tale of Erik Carlsson "on the roof", this will also help you learn about your product. Then read Iaccocca An Autobiography, it will show you that safety does not sell cars (Chrysler was the first to put seat belts in all cars). Be honest, tell others the 2008 9-3 fell in safety rankings, it did not obtain as high of scores as previous years of 2007 and 2006. Now I have had an 86 900 spg, a 92 9000 Griffen (one of only 350 made at 42KMSRP, this one put off retirement by 3 years with all the repairs). Then a 99 9-5 SE, with a 6 cyl, perfect car, not one problem. Then a 2002 Saab Aero wagon, recently sold on Ebay last week, one can email me through there if they can not find this deal above still. Now a 08 9-3 Aero (we like the seats), I bought five, how many have you bought? These are only one car in three we have in the family, but enough, if you have not got the message, you never will and I have given you too much of my time as probably most of your customers do. Try to improve, not criticize others, when you have never met them. Try not to call them a liar, and that they made up a story, you just lower your credibility and the organization your represent in sales. Take it from someone who has sold for 29 years and is getting ready to retire, what your doing is only hurting you and your product. 
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im crushed.........!!!!!!!! lol 
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jun 08, 2008 8:46 am) is still selling cars in the U.S. five years from now,something which I care greatly about.
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To be fair, the dealer selling at that price hurts only other dealers, not saab. Saab sells more cars, and more parts in the future, etc... Those are some amazing prices. A 9-3 for 24K? I mean, wow. An accord EX-L is about the same on carsdirect. |
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