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Replying to: hutch79 (May 22, 2008 6:19 pm)
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Replying to: rob136 (Jun 04, 2008 3:44 pm) This was my sixth Saab, never pay near sticker, be ready for large depreciations, always have, seem to remain the same since my first in 86. Go to Zack  Downers Grove Saab in Chicago, 43 Saabs online and on lot, with MSRP and their price listed, no talking, offers, go to Luxury Motors.com then Saab Downers Grove, pay as marked, 43 Saab 9-3's in stock! I flew Southwest one way to Midway Airport, a cab to pick up the car ($200) from St. Louis. St. Louis long time dealer would give me my $1000 Saab loyality after two hours of negotiation at the dealer. Downers Grove, did the deal on the phone with mastercard in 10 minutes. They have about 70 08 Saabs in Stock part of Luxury Motors, best price in United States. I emailed twenty Saab dealers with what I wanted, said I would buy in 24 hours. Be ready for emails and calls like your a stock trader on the floor. Some with good offers, but nothing near this dealer. Bought, brand new sticker $37,885.00 2008 9-3 Aero, 6 miles. Remember, all Aero options (which is a loaded base) come with the 6 (I preferred a 4 cyl, but that is show biz) plus seats you can't get on a base (Aero, wrap around buckets, better leather, the leather that used to be standard on all saabs, xenon headlights, sunroof, 17" wheels, Bose Centerpoint, dual power front seats. Add, cold weather, which gives you the heated seats, which used to also be standard and Saab invented. Auto transmission with shifting paddels on steering wheel (not sure I will ever use that), Fussion Blue Mettallic (preferred Ice Blue, but they did not have, had too many silvers and blacks in my Saab past). Price, out the door and on the highway home in 20 minutes after arriving at dealer $30,410 (which also included my $1000.00 saab loyal bucks) and documentation and license fees of $200. No loaner, no flood car (as other dealers would try to tell me) 6 miles, full tank of gas. Get a base 9-3 black with stick for $23,900. Biggest Saab dealer I ever saw. In this economy, be careful, many salesmen and dealers will try to stick you for 5K in a heartbeat or 6K at my dealer in St. Louis area. These guys are straight up, so ask Zac about the guy from St. Louis, told him I would post to fellow lookers. Good luck. They have been taking in 3-4 SUVs a day in trades.
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Also, $2197 less than TMV for my Zip in St. Louis which I went out of, post 422 My dealers would not come near TMV pricing. TMW was Too Many Villans in my zip code range. Give them a price, if Chicago is too far, give a what it would cost to get there on top of it, if the don't take it, run, Forest, run. Don't negotiate, one offer, you will not win and wast hours and ruin your day. |
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Replying to: smu1976 (Jun 06, 2008 11:39 pm) $35,080.65.Dealer cash $2,500,June purchase bonus cash $1,000.00,Saab owner loyalty $1,000.00. Net price before taxes and tags $30,580.85. You claim you took delivery at a price $170.00 below dealers net/net cost (net/net being invoice price minus market advertising charges,dealer holdback,and all available dealer and customer incentives)???? Why would a dealer sell any car at an absolute total ZERO sum profit.In light of the fact that it was in stock I assume he paid some bank floor plan interest on the car! At your claimed purchase price the dealer would have been better off never taking the car into inventory! If you are in fact eligible to buy the car under the GM Employee purchase program you do anyone reading your post a disservice by not stating that fact ...if you are not,then your story is just that... a story!
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Replying to: saablcp (Jun 07, 2008 7:49 am) Downers Grove Saab, view Luxury motors dot , then go to Downers grove Saab. I said the same thing, called and asked is this a mistake. You want a copy of the paperwork? I don't claim it, I did it. I am eligible for the GM supplier discount, but they would not accept it, for the price was below. Why won't you take the truth? You need a invoice copy sent to you? You needs my email? I gave you the name of the dealer, the listings on line, how the MSRP is listed, then their price, no crap with all the numbers, heres the price, write a check, what else do you want? Its a good deal, I shared it, don't call me a liar. As I said, there was 43 just 9-3's on the lot? How many you got? My dealer in west county in St. Louis had about 10, but would even walk with me or look up the inventory on their files to see which one had what options, told me to go look myself (in the rain) while he sat in the break room and had lunch. Offered me 9K and 1k Saab Loyalty, after goig in there since 1986, that is not going to work anymore. The old days of going to the back room are over son. Sometimes you salesmen don't know all, you don't know all the incentives a very large dealer gets? I have sold (with an MBA for 20 years and still learn). Don't accuse the buyer, don't blast another dealer, it makes you look bad. I got screwed on Saabs and dealers by paying several grand more in the past, those days are over. Will give you a posting from the site on the next post. If you can't buy the car there at that price and I listed everything on the post above, then reading the post is your problem. The figures are right from my invoice. 5K on MC to hold, then another 5K for max on Mastercard for a total of 10K for airline points. Then the rest by check. 6 miles, brand new, you almost got to feel guilty selling all those Saabs at those prices your did, don't you? Luxury Motors is the largest buyer in the nation, volume works. Why would I want to make this crap up and post it, I don't have time for that. All the truth, nothing but the truth, I swear to GOD. I made an error, listed the salesmans name, and the website, cant you visit it and then tell us what you see?? Call the dealer and tell us what you hear? Or keep giving people the shaft. Heck, the offered me coffee, a coke, let me use and office for a webcast meeting, treated me like gold. My dealer (front end) treats me like crap, service is good, but its a new salesperson everymonth that does not know a damn thing about how the car is engineered or why. Next post will give you the clues since you didn't get it from the last post. Do a carfax on my VIN and see when it was sold? VIN YS3F H41U 8113 1763. Then look on Ebay, 2002 9-5 Aero's sold in the last week, and see my 9-5 sold with 38K for 13 grand even. Contact the seller there (ME) if you still have doubts, notice where the owner lives (same town). |
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Go to Luxury Motors dot something (not web address) Hit the Saab Logo Look at the cars: Here is a cut and paste: 2008 SAAB 9-3 9-3 AERO Exterior: Silver Interior: BLACK-PARCHMENT Original MSRP: $39,305 Luxury Sale Price: $32,495 Now, since you sell for a living, EXPLAIN? |
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008 SAAB 9-3 Convertible 9-3 AERO CAB Exterior: White Interior: BLACK-PARCHMENT Original MSRP: $51,325 Luxury Sale Price: $41,995 Stock #: 1300 Mileage: 8 miles SAAB Downers Grove Luxury Motors Thats 20% quick round math, 20%, no negotiation needed, can you beat it Saabicp? Or because you can't you revert to the name calling of the consumer? Above, highest MSRP for any Saab they have in stock, this is a cut and paste anyone that can find this site can find this car? Go to Luxury.something, then click on the Saab logo. It's like buying a Saturn, but easier, the price is right on the Internet, so no running to the back room to talk to mystery man,or woman making me waste half my day. Playing all the numbers games and percents, like your post. Thats the TRUTH my friend, NOW lets see if you can be a good salesman and admit it?  Sometimes somebody changes the was business is done (Apple, Starbucks, McDonalds, etc.) and many can't understand, you call me a liar, say it is just a "story" (why would I want to do that)? It's because you don't take the time to do your homework and just verify the price, the dealer, etc. Look at the brands this Luxury dealership carries, Saab is the lowest end car and they are the only Saab dealership connected with Luxurydot, add it all up, then you can understand with margins on the other lines how it can be done and make money. I don't know, I see the price, the car is new, its a Saab dealership, why not buy it with 50K/4year warranty? Tell me? |
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The funniest thing in your inarticulate,grammatically comical rant is your claim of holding an MBA! I simply stated the facts of what the costs are on a car such as the one you posted,minus all real and potential profit and any and all dealer and consumer rebates.That price was higher than you claimed to have paid.Your response is a tirade against dealers selling $40k products at a reasonable profit.Did you not attend the classes dealing with the structure of a free market economy?Do you feel the same way about the merchants who sell you the other goods you use in your day to day life? The only logical thread I can glean from your post is this dealer apparently makes large enough margins on their other car lines to be essentially a clearing house zero profit source for Saab customers.What would be the point?
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Replying to: saablcp (Jun 08, 2008 8:57 am) As a buyer, I don't really care why or how.. just where.. regards, kyfdx
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